What everyone has been waiting to hear
Basically here’s the deal. If you read me, you know that for years, this guy named Sean Manchester has stalked me. He’s a self professed “vampire hunter” that’s been made fun of by everything from the BBC and Channel 4 in the UK to Ramsey Campbell and Neil Gaiman mocking him in writing. He’s appeared on radio shows, done documentaries and has 6 or so books published and probably three times as many written about him. He’s been listed as a public figure since the late 1960’s. That’s nearly 40 years.
Why does he stalk me? Well, spell the last name backwards and that’s a pretty good hint.
OMG! My name almost is an anagram for Dracula! Holy crap! Obviously I am the lord of the undead! Bring me human blood and a pile of earth to line my coffin with! Sigh…
At first it was just crazy ranting emails, but then it eventually spread to my livejournal. He’d attack me, attack LJ friends, and even attack other anon commentors that would turn out to be rival occultists/vampire hunters. He’s been considered a right nut for over three decades by everyone who has ever encountered him.
Eventually though he decided to play nasty. He would complain to LJabuse that his name was showing up in my LJ and that it was an invasion of his privacy. Never mind that all these conversations were started by him or because of his stalking, or that the comments he was complaining about were often HIS OWN. Somehow he decided a public figure shouldn’t be talked about negatively. Even though every court on earth has laughed him right out of it every time he’s whined.
So of course this means LJabuse, the group of volunteers who enforced a Draconian order over Livejournal, decided to agree with him simply because “they had never heard of him.” This began a six month battle where I offered them legal definitions, books by and about him, transcripts of shows he was in and even court precedent and legal papers showing he was a public figure and that they were merely helping him harass me out of ignorance and foolish pride that wouldn’t allow them to admit they were wrong.
Honestly, if you were told “I have court precedent and documentation showing you are wrong.” don’t you think you’d be a wee nip curious about those and the fact you just might be going against legal rulings? Not LJ Abuse. Indeed, for trying to help them do their job properly and legally, I was banned from livejournal completely, being called “subversive.”
Now it was obvious to me by this point noone on LJabuse had any inkling of how the law works, what a person’s rights are and so on? Me, I have three degrees, two of which are in Political Science. The first has an emphasis on Constiutional Law, the second in International Political Law. So I’m no lawyer by any means, but I have more than a layman’s knowledge on these things, especially since I’ve been considered a public figure for about a decade. I like to know what little rights I have.
That and the fact I have in my hands a court ruling from April 18th, 2006 showing that Sean Manchester tried this bullshit with a documentary that made fun of him, and it was thrown out of court because he’s a legal figure. Considering all this insanity with LJ Abuse started in June ‘06, you’d think they would again listen when I had a court ruling not even 60 days old on the matter.
This of course meant I had to take things to Sixapart. I explained the situation to Jane, their head of PR and Press Manager. She totally understood and was sympathetic. She agreed with me that LJ ABuse’s ruling was assonine and promised to help me out and make sure it got over turned.
That was Thursday.
Also on Thursday, I ended up talking to Joel, the head of LJ Support. He didn’t seem to understand what this was all about and I spent 20 minutes going over the same story with him. “Crazy nut ruled as a public figure harasses me. LJ abuse suspended me because they didn’t consider him a public figure even though I have legally binding proof.”
Joel’s response, “It sounds to me like you have different opinions as to what a public figure is.” No, I have legal defintions, LJabuse has assumptions and ignorance. Joel even admitted to me on the phone no one in LJ Abuse has a strong working defintion of law. OMGWTF, right? It’s not that he was being stupid, or dissmissive. It was that he had a hard time wrapping his head around the sheer weirdness of this. I mean, if someone told you about a crazy old man who hunts vampires whining in your LJ because you were making fun of them, how surreal would that be to you. I’m disapointed, but I understand and I’m cool with it all.
I told Joel that I have enough legal proof, enough witnesses from LJ willing to come testify for me, enough published authors who can prove the same thing has been done to them and Manchester was laughed at for trying this, and court cases from this year showing I am in the legal right here. Joel asked me to send him some, but LJAbuse was ignorant of how the law worked and felt that being a published author doesn’t make one a public figure when according to common law rulings on this, IT DOES. Six published books, documentaries, unauthorized biographies and so on= permanently branded public figure. I even highlighted that legal discussion for him when I sent it to him.
So far Joel has not responded or returned my calls, even though Jane has promised he would. I’d like to think he’s still trying trying to wrap his head around all this bullshit. I mean, it’s been less than a week. I’d love things to be magically done now, but there’s the whole needing patience thing.
On the other side of things, the Better Buisness Bureau has gotten involved with a formal complaint being lodged, the ACLU has gotten involved, and Ofcom, the regulatory commission for all forms of media in the UK has gotten involved. I also have several far more well known authors that me (and really, that’s not a hard feat to accomplish :-P) willing to but in an afffidavit that they have written about Manchester and that he’s a nut, LJ’ers willing to testify to his stalking me, Media organizations and their corresponding documents showing he’s a public figure, and a lot more.
In all, I’ve been basically told by every outlet possible it’s not a question of If I will win if I bring this to litigation, it’s how big the dump truck full of money will be. However said people are obviously biased towards me or people who want me to sue so they can represent me, so take it with a grain of salt.
The truth is, I don’t want to sue. And I more than likely won’t unless there’s like no other option. I believe in discourse and mediation. I feel lawsuits are pretty shitty things in general. I just want my LJ back and a written apology from LJ/Sixapart saying they made a mistake and that it won’t happen again. The apology isn’t to lord over them. It’s for my records in case this ever happened again, with maybe a new member of LJ ABuse coming on their team. Even then, getting the Lj back isn’t critical. What’s critical is staying in touch with friends and fans, and this might prove to be an equally valid alternative.
I’m not mad at LJ ABuse either. They’re volunteers, and when you have an unpaid staff, you generally get the lesser pickings and the fanatics with no life outside that activity. They’re unaware, ignorant, and have a long documented reputation of refusing to admit they are wrong, even in cases like this where I’ve explained they are unwittingly responsible for aiding and abetting harrassment, stalking, assault, and most of all tampering with court admissible documents, as a few people who plan to sue Manchester wanted to use my LJ as proof of him attacking others. This is obviously one of the reasons Manchester got my journal suspended, as without the LJ, there’s no proof against his insane rantings and verbal assualts against people. Again, in LJabuse’s ignorance, they said “We’ll export all your journal entries” they miss my main point that the comments are needed as that’s where the proof is.
I realize LJ abuse is pretty unequipped to handle anything beyond “OMG LOLZ that are cruel in someone’s journal.” This is beyond their understanding and capability. it’s beyond most people’s as thankfully most people are rational enough not to believe in the undead. That’s why I can’t get mad., or rather I can’t stay mad for very long It would be like someone getting mad at me because they were talking Quantum physics and I just stared at them confused and befuddled.
I’m also not mad at Sixapart. I realize it’s not every day one public figure attacks another, declaring the second to be the Lord of the Undead. It’s a very bizarre and insane situation I wish I wasn’t part of, but there it is. I greatly appreciate Jane’s efforts, while I am highly dissapointed by Joel’s, but again, I can see where he’s coming from. It strongly feels to me that Joel hopes if he ignores me, I will go away, but the truth is, if ignored or dismissed, I will have to lodge the lawsuit, if only to prevent this from happening to anyone else.
Again, I don’t want to sue, but this is an obvious breach of my First Amendement rights, my right (although it sounds silly writing it) to defend myself when people come into my blog and go “OMG! VAMPIRE”, not to mention LJ Abuse setting precedent that they are willing to ignore several international bodies of law and their ruling on this matter simply due to the fact they are a collected group of people who really are in over their heads sometimes. It also sets a precedent that no public figure can be made fun of in LJ. Can’t make fun of Lindsay Lohan for her belief that Al Gore will be her new best friend or Michael Jackson for liking little boys. This is VERY dangerous and is basically a dick in the ass of all blogger’s rights. AFter all, blogging is supposed to be the new journalism, and what does that tell you when people who have no understanding of due process, torts, or any basical legal rights are making decisions left and right over several million people. Decisions that are sometimes illegal in and of themselves. Worst of all they aided and abetted in harrassment, stalking, and assault, yet attacked me for doing something that was legal in every way possible. Just insane.
The only thing that matters to me is that I can’t sue Manchester directly because I AM a public figure. And because I’m pretty sure he’s on the dole. You don’t sue welfare cases. And you don’t sue simply for money. Hell, I’m a believer that no lawsuit should be centered around financial compensation. Which I realize makes me naive, but I write about Pikachu. Is this character trait a real shock? I just know a bunch of people back in the UK have said they wanted to use my Lj as court admissible evidence of what he does, and Manchester’s whole plan to have my LJ removed was to remove that evidence from being admissible in a court of law. That’s obstruction of justice and it pisses me off to no end. Really, my own petty wants and needs don’t matter. Hell, i’ve complied with this shit in the past from them. But when LJabuse fucks with me and that in turns hurts a lot of others, that’s when I’m willing to stand up and say “no more.” That sounds really hollier than thou though. :-P
Like I said, I’ve been told by just about everyone to sue, and that it’s a pretty damn airtight case against Sixapart because of legal precedence. I’m not convinced and I keep having to say that to people. I still want to believe Sixapart will wake up, realize LJabuse’s MASSIVE fuck up, and apologize to me, or at least prevent this from happening again. But if I have to go to court to prevent this nut job from being allowed to harrass all over the net from PoE to Wikipedia, then I will. Fuck my own ego. I just hate seeing assholes get away with shit.
And that’s all I can really say legally right now. I’ll update with happenings here and there on this issue, such as various news agencies picking up the story (as I’ve found out people are linking to this or reporting it), but other than that this will act as my blog until LJ sees fit to restore mine or allow me access to import my old one.
Please note, I can’t respond to or see the comments LJ’ers leave in the RSS feed of this blog, so if you want me to respond or read your comments, please leave them here at http://www.alexanderlucard.com/wordpress
And with that note, it’s time to get things back to normal. Enough fucking blog drama yo.
Like you I’m no fan of lawsuits. But in this case the system (LJ Abuse) is wrong and needs a wake up call. Lodge the lawsuit and count to slowly to ten. By about 8 or 9 I’m sure your phone will be ringing
In the end I’ll probably have to, but then there’s the whole “Settlement” thing. If I have to take it to court, then yeah, I’ll want them to pay court costs and a little something for my time and effort being wasted on this. I just am constantly shocked I send them court documents showing I’m right and LJ abuse’s response was “Fuck the law.” in no uncertain terms.
Unless Six Apart is a state actor, I don’t see how you can sustain an action alleging violation of your first amendment rights. It seems to me that Six Apart can have a different definition of public figure than the common law. Which isn’t to say their present definition is defensible, just that they’re not agents of the government, and can establish their own unaccountable interpretations of the facts.
If they want to say he’s not a public figure, I think they can do that no matter how overwhelming the evidence to the contrary. It’s stupid and bad PR, but they can do it.
I am not a lawyer, however, and this is not legal advice. I’d be interested to learn more about how you could sustain a cause of action against them under the first amendment.
Basically it’s because there’s court precedent for 35 years showing this character is a public figure. That and he fits every legal defintion of a public figure that is currently accepted by US and UK law.
Sixapart and/or Livejournal legally can’t decide on their own who is and who is not a public figure. A company or corporation can redefine local, state, civil, or federal laws to suit their own purpose.
Okay! Well, best of luck. Regardless of the legal analysis, it’s clear LJ is dead wrong. If someone comments in your journal, they shouldn’t even have to be a public figure to talk about them. They’ve got lousier policies and lousier enforcement.
I agree completely. Right now I’ve got a ton of other writers and media organizations agreeing to testify as well as court documents showing that SA can’t pick and choose who is a public figure and that only courts can and they’ve been adamant for 35 years my stalker is.
At this point it’s basically Sixapart against the legal system of the entire English speaking world. :-P
I really don’t want it to go to litigation as I don’t want to hurt Sixapart financially but that’s what law costs and settlements and the like do, and this shouldn’t have to involve money on any side. Just an apology.
You’d have thought it’s a no-brainer, surely?
Option 1 - Apologise, back down, apologise again, avoid legal action, add another apology for good measure.
Option 2 - Be collective dumbasses, don’t admit you were wrong, get sued for a shit-ton of cash.
If all you want it a written apology, then why the HELL aren’t they doing all that, and more? An apology costs nothing except pride, and a loss of face isn’t going to affect your Profit And Loss statement NEARLY as much as losing a Metric Fuckton Of Money as part of a lawsuit will.
You should know that LJ doesn’t count someone as “public figure” unless they have their name surrounded by x, and/or have been featured in Fandom Wank at least 5 times.
How high up the ladder is Brad_Fitz these days?
And head of a company counts as a public figure as well actually. In the US, pretty much anyone can be as long as they’ve done something to get national attention.
i’m pretty sure brad is still up very high in the food chain at 6A. but in cases like this i think unless he is asked to step in, he’ll leave it to the chain of command and chain of process.
alex’s case is a particularly difficult one. while i understand his frustration (p.s. its asinine not assonine… which is amusingly close to ass online!) i can also see things from 6A/LJ’s perspective. it is much easier to immediately act in the favor of the complaining party when they are claiming harassment. heres the problem. LJ Terms of Service state:
You agree to NOT use the Service to:
1. Upload, post or otherwise transmit any Content that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive to another’s privacy (up to, but not excluding any address, email, phone number, or any other contact information without the written consent of the owner of such information), hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;
that last bit there. that “otherwise objectionable;”. thats the bit where i think alex is going to get shafted. that and the fact that LJ is not a public service - its a paid for service. and LJ has the right to refuse service to alex. they’ve offered to archive/export his LJ for him, allowing him to move to another homestead elsewhere. so unless 6A/LJ decide to back down, i dont see things going well.
Oh Spike, this doesn’t have spellcheck yet. It’s a work in progress. :-(
Actually, it’s that ToS you quoted which is why I can’t be shafted. Legally listed public figures are exempt from those sorts of things. In essence, people like myself don’t have much in the way of privacy rights. One can’t pick and choose who is a public figure. You have to either do all or none by the letter of the law. WHat LJ has done has, in essence, decided to ignore court precedent and ruling that my stalker is indeed, a public figure, which is in and of itself illegal.
A private service can refuse content for whatever reason, but you have to provide a reason for the refusal of service, and if the excuse can be proven to be false or erroneous, the decision can not stick. Of course, they can, five minutes after being laughed out of court for not accepting legal statutes, turn around and ban me simply because they WANT to, but then they have to make a statement saying that and it will merely increase the ill will against them.
Also, they offered to, but the service doesn’t work. Every time I’ve tried the exporting, it won’t let me for a suspended journal, which means either they are once again unaware of what they are talking about, or they lied to me.
Plus the reason I’m listed for being banned is “listing a non public figure’s name without permission” and that’s what can easily be proven in court according to every legal person who has looked at the documents.
Trust me, I wouldn’t have even considered legal matters if several people in the field, a few media organizations, obudsmen, and the ACLU didn’t say “Dude. This is an airtight case for you’ because I don’t want to waste anyone’s time or money.
A private service can refuse content for whatever reason, but you have to provide a reason for the refusal of service, and if the excuse can be proven to be false or erroneous, the decision can not stick.
Well, that’s might be true for online service, but when CONvergence banned someone, we were told by an attorney (after the fact) that we specifically did not have to provide a reason. As a private group, we may refuse service to any person at any time for any reason. Actually, providing a reason caused us problems, as it made the (bannee?) try to fight us on it.
Still, best of luck to you. You might even want to shop around a book on the whole thing.
That’s what I mean though. You can just say “Because we want to.” And that’s a justifiable reason. But you have to say why, if only for your own protection and PR. In this case, the reason they gave would be laughed at by any person with a legal background since it can be disproven.
At this point, it’s not about me getting back onto LJ. I know there’s a shitton of people who want me there, but it’s the internet and if I don’t, I don’t. I’m more considered with LJ Abuse setting a precedent that they can decide who is and who is not a public figure and that they feel they can go against legal rulings on the matter. It’s more I don’t want anyone else to get sniped out bya public figure and have LJ say “Oh, we don’t consider him one anymore.” Especially as people around LJ that aren’t even on my F-list or know me have mocked my stalker even before he found my blog and started harrasing me, and nothing happened to them. It’s the pick and choose instead of a constant, consistent ruling that worries me. I don’t want to see someone get banned for say, mocking Melissa Rivers.
Oh, I can’t WAIT to read that case! It will go into my saved cases file, along with the blood-stained pizza box and the “I Am Ramtha” case!
LJ was wrong about the nursing mother icons, and they’re even wronger about this!
And the hilarious thing is even though every major news paper reported that LJ was fucking stupid for the nursing mothers, they didn’t overturn it.
In the end, neither my issue or the Nursing mothers is the end of the world. I’m highly dissapointed in LJ as a whole from this, but thankfully there are other options like this.
Lucard backwards??
AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
Oh shit… That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. :D
Did you just realize the backwards last name thing Danielle?
Did you ever stop to think that maybe they banned you because you are an asshole? I am sure that they did not want to be associated with such childish behavior.
It’s entirely in the realm of possibility, but it’s not the reason they gave. Plus I’m not the one doing the stalking or psychotic rambling or telling people that someone I have never met drinks blood and is approximately 500 years old.
Making fun of public figures is a rather assholish thing to do, I’ll grant you that. Hell, I’ve been the victim of it myself. But it doesn’t bother me. It comes with the territory. And if I was banned for being an asshole to a public figure, they’d have to do it across the board to nearly everyone for the sake of unilateral consistency.
Hey Alex, I’m banning you from my Livejournal site for being an asshole too. Then I’m kicking you off my UE message board just for good measure.
Just as long as it’s not for being a vampire.
So you’re saying you’re a vampire?
Quiet you!
Or what? You’re going to turn me into one of your legions of the undead?
Once I get my Myspace set up and we have alerted my whole F-list about this new blog, we have to start a “Dracula’s bride” contest.
Boy that’s weird. Sorry to hear you have to put up with this BS.
Lol. I take it Dan and/or Erin told you this, Mr. Parker? ;-)
that was a fun read. OMG I FOUND UR MYSPACE!!
your is about as hard to find as mine is.
Yay! What is yours? Add me!
dude- when you own Livejournal, can you hook me up with a permanent account?
:-P
Lol. If that ever happened, of course I would!
I’d give you my old one except you know, it’s suspended!
There is so much boggling going on inside my head, I’m having trouble forming a coherent thought.
Ignoring legal precedents. I’ve been pretty loyal to LJ even when SixApart bought them and the weirdness started happening.
But now — hey…has anyone seen my cake?
Yeah, I probably should’ve dropped Lj along with a ton of other EA’s and permies when SA bought them, but I had such a large friend list.
It just doesn’t pay to be a public figure on LJ. LJ as itself is a fine service. it’s just the higher ups aren’t the brightest and the LJ abuse team has no idea of what they can and can’t do legally.
Mostly I really like LJ, but every now and then they do something completely moronic like this and I’m embarrassed to be associated with them. Given the level that a lot of online stalking can get to there is no real excuse for not having someone with a strong legal background in both US and international law available to their LJ abuse team for tricky situations.
Well the hilarity was the difference between the response I got from the LJ abuse team, which are Americans, and the British legal people who are all well aware that my stalker has been a public nutjob for 35-40 years. One five minute explination and they’re like, “Here’s your legal paperwork.”
And Lj as a whole IS mostly good. I just happened to have been int he 5-10% that gets fucked over by them.
LJ Abuse, lending Stalkers a Helping Hand
Six Apart’s companies have done this sort of thing before, but last time SixApart CEO Barak Berkowitz made his apologies for the error. Will Alex Lucard get a similar apology, or is LiveJournal Abuse beyond even Barak Berkowitz’s control?
You should check out these posts…
http://markpincus.typepad.com/markpincus/2006/07/murry_gunty_is_.html
http://markpincus.typepad.com/markpincus/2006/07/respondse_to_my.html
This guy was told by Six Apart’s Typepad service to remove the name of a public figure on grounds of privacy, and when he complained publically, the CEO of Six Apart apologized personally. I’m sure it helps that he was the founder of another big Net company. Maybe you should try getting through to 6A’s CEO to ask him to explain the discrepency in policies…
Sweet god…
I hope whatever happens, you come out on top. You theoretically *should*, but still. And you know, maybe this was supposed to happen, for LJ to WAKE UP and get a fucking PAID staff for the Abuse Team. The time my journal got hacked, they did *nothing* for me.
Who could imagine it’d be you who toppled LJAbuse? ;)
PS: You haven’t moved, right? I think I have your address from last year’s gift exchange.
I don’t think anyone’s been happy with LJabuse. EVER. ;-)
I know you don’t want to sue, but public figure or no, what this Mr. Manchester has done to you meets every standard for libel under U.S. law.
He published untruths about you, these untruths have caused you harm (from the LJ suspension to the time spent dealing with this, and any legal expenses you’ve incurred), and — most important — he knew these were untrue statements at the time he published them.
This is the “malice aforethought” portion of libel law, which allows even public figures to sue for the mosst outrageous lies tokd about them. Too bad he has nothing to take — which is in fact why most libels go unpunished.
As a public figure though, you can say shit about me. I mean you can say “Michael Jackson is a fucked up pedophile” but he can’t sue you for that, even though he’s never been convicted.
The big catch here is he truly does believe in vampires and the undead and shit. He’s insane and dellusional and so what he’s writing isn’t him lying. It’s him being nuts. And that’s how he gets around it.
LJ Abuse has always been arbitrary. That was one thing when the service was being run by Brad out of his garage. If Six Apart wants to be taken seriously, then they’ll hire professionals to staff LJ Abuse and stop with this silliness.
Do you mind if I post about this in my LJ?
Yeah,if you want to. Be my guest.
sorry son
Lol. Thanks Kylie. it’s the internet. It’s worth being pissed off for a day or two at most and then it becomes comedy.
Hope BH is still fun!
Wow
Word got around about this, just the rough and ugly (and it is very ugly) but really reading it all at one go boggles the mind.
Hell if you were the lord of the undead this wouldn’t be an issue :)
If I was Lord of the Undead I’d totally have an even better Internet Diary from which to complain on.
And there would be that dripping blood bar from the mid 1990’s too!
Not to mention the parties!
I mean you could damn well sell the service you could offer.
Forget botox. . . try Drax, it will leave you looking unearthly!
Dude, the parties would be all, “Let dracula hypnotise you with his magical vampire powers! It’s better than PCP!”
And I know you would share such wonderful powers.
Humm a group of immortals with power over the weak willed running B_H.
Now that would be worth seeing.
Aside from the immortality, how is that different now?
I Keed! I keed!
*grin*
I would say the only diff would be no one would ever leave the job. . . at least willingly.
Honestly, consider a lawsuit. LJ has gotten away with an untrained, incompetent abuse staff for far too long. They need a wake-up call to show them just how much damage these volunteers are doing. The company makes money, so they should pay some actual employees who have been trained to do the job, and not rely on volunteers anymore. Sheesh.
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Hi Alex,
I know this is not the main reason you’re doing this But don’t forget that Mr. Manchester is also claiming to be a ‘bishop’ when he is NOT a genuine one. You will certainly find that he has used this false title to defend his machinations in the past. He has probaly already tried to con LA Abuse with this false title. If not, he almost certainly will do.
Just a point,
David Farrant
Hi Alex Again,
As an NB, just thought to tell you one of our old Websites is in the process of being relaunched. Manchester had two of the old ones illrgally shut down by making false complainys under his usual aliases. ‘Dennid Crawford’, Micjaell Thane, ‘Vampireologist’,'Katrina Garforth-Bles’ (’KGB’ for short), and so on.
Link is: http://darkjourney.proboards18.com/
I don’t know if its permitted to give links here. If not, sorry, then just delete it!
For now,
David Farrant, President, British Psychic and Occult Society/The Highgate Vampire Society.
Links are totally fine David. In fact, the more “Manchester is a boob” links, the better. ;-)
Hi Alex,
Just thought I’d ask ’cause I wasn’t sure (about Links).
This one might amuse you - although its not really meant to be funny. Don’t want to put this ‘off topic’ - but its not really if you think about it. He’s been swamping the Internet (and sending my friends and members by unsokited e-mails, just as he did to yourself) with an overwhelming accusation that I was personally in some way responsible for his ’secretary’’s’ death some three years ago. I am not amused which is why I am answering questions about this. I have used the person’s nickname which he had on through from the early 1970’s, “Boffinack”. I hardly have to tell you who this most un-holy individual really is!
The Link is: http://davidfarrant.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=70
Hope it works and that you enjoy it.
For now,
David Farrant
Hi Alex,
Glad that you’ve got your new site up and running. I bet that you wish you’d never heard of Manchester, believe us we know the feeling well. But still at least, like ourselves you have plenty of people to support you. I too would go for legal action, in fact we are doing. Here is another Manchester is a boob link, and the Old Catholic Church for that matter. Take care and God bless, Catherine
http://groups.msn.com/TheEnigmaofTheOldCatholicChurch
You guys are more than welcome to use the content from my old site as proof of his craziness, what with stalking me and thinking I’m Dracula and all that. I and Livejournal have it saved and can be used if you require it as evidence.
Finally getting around to this site after your blogs on MySpace…
I tried the LJ link you left me in my journal, but it said “no such user” or something like that.
I didn’t get so much as a blink out of LJAbuse for posting what you posted. Funny, eh?
Hi Alex likewise if you want to use any of our material then just go for it. Our Enigma of the Old English Catholic message board should come in handy. We’ve got loads of evidence from these so called Priests slagging Manchester off one minute and in the next breath they are literally ‘backing him’. What a hoot. Well, all I can say is that I can’t wait for Manchester to get his just deserts. It will be definately worth the stress.
Kind regards and best wishes.
Catherine.
PS Have you still got my email address? Talk to you soon.
Sue and be damned…I would…!
Hi Alex,
Well said Soprana!
I hate to be the bearer of bad tidyings, Alex. I am sorry to disappoint you but the sad old man is not in his ‘earlt seventies’ - he will be 63 on 15th July next year.
He is NOT on the dole anymore but drawing a pension.
Finally (I don’t know if I should really put this here, but as its true I’ll go for it!), in 2002 he was left in excess of £200,000 which could easily be verified by any Court or Tribunal, (including by others and myself).
Hope this helps the cause,
For now,
David (Farrant)
Wow. he’s that young? I assumed that since the high gate thing happened when in the late 1960’s than he was in his late 20’s/early 30’s back then. He must have been barely an adult when he was running around like a nutter then.
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Hi Alex,
Yes that information is correct (save in that the £200,000 should have read ‘£210,000; I’ve since checked back) and besides this, it is all a matter of public record.
OK. In for a penny! (but the last for this dwindling year). The person I am talking about also owns property (no, NOT ‘church’ property!). I know the address and can supply it if legally required; although obviously I can’t post that up here. (Well, I could, but I just don’t want tp revert to that level).
Well, we might not celebrate Christmas as such, but let me wish you a Happy New Year.
For the moment,
David (Farrant)
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Hi Alex,
Try this one for the New Year - highly entertaining!
Just give you a brief explanation first, then the link (and id I haven’t done it properly, I’ll get Catherine to post it tomorrow).
Last year a friend of mine, Dave Milner, wrote an article for PARANORMAL MAGAZINE on the s0-called Highgate Vampire. But just said that in 1970, one group of ‘vampire hunting nutters’ claimed to have staked the vampire through the heart in Highgate Cemetery.
NOT SO, stormed the “Vampire ResearchSociety”, the ‘vampire’ was staked at another location, NOT in Highgate Cemetery. (Please remember the ‘Vampire Research Society, is no less than Mr. Manchester using it as one of his nornal aliases; ‘Dennis Crawford’ being one of its alleged members, but again, Mr. Manchester himself).
Now, in1985, Mr. Manchester self-published a book in which he (and others not identified properly) in which he claims to have discovered the Highgate ‘vampire’ asleep in its coffin inside a private vault in H.C. He was about to ’stake it’ but the others persuaded his to seal it up -with ‘garlic impregnated cement’ instead.
He claims he did so but later discovered that the vampire had escaped (taking its coffin with it). He claims he re-discovered some three years later in the cellars of a deserted Gothic mansion on the outskirts of Crouch End. He then claims in his ‘book’, that here he ’staked it through its heart’ (”a terrible roar emitted as if from the bowels of hell” [!] ) and that incinerated it with a can of petrol [!]
Well, in his article, DM confused this with Highgate Cemetery, and the “V. R.S. (Manchester) threanened to sue him (well me actually) for getting the location wrong. And he was deadly serious!
Anway, see if the link works . ..
http://featured.writingup.com/cathanddavid/return_of_the_highgate_vampire
Good!
Have fun!
David (Farrant)
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We are at least getting to the bottom of the bishop mystery. First of all there are several “Old Catholic Churches” in England, which all have similar names, so its easy to get confused. When Catherine and I STARTED TO DIG into the details, we were told that first of all no -one knew of a Bishop Manchester, then I found another branch connected to Illtyd Thomas, the guy who “ordeained” Manchester, who said he was valid. Be that as it may be, our objection was to the “Bishops” unbecoming behaviour, his vampire hunting antics being one of his unbishoplike behaviour. However, this person said that they were all in touch with each other and had concerns over Manchesters mental health but lo and behold, a few days later there was an announcent on Manchesters site to say that they all believed he was valid. No doubt they had been carpet bombed with e mails!
However, I had already contacted the UTRETCH BRANCH of the church in Utretch who had said in the first place they knew nothing of Manchester, and they had just confirmed this again, one of the English Old Catholics call themselves Utretch also, which makes it confusing.
The conclusion is then, that all these old Catholics in England are invalid and their certificates arent worth the paper theya re written on. I also managed to find out from the “English Utretch” lot for want of a better name,that Manchesters “church” is a one man band–ie “autocephalous”–in orther words he has no superior and is answerable to no one!
So there you are !
Greenwych
And we should perhaps not forget, Greenwych, that when he was ‘consecrated’, Manchester hired out a non-conformist Church in Barnetzand paid Illyt Thomas (a self-styled ‘Old Catholic Bishop’) somewhere in the region of £100 for a mass-produced Certificate to verify that he was a genuine ‘bishop’.
It (the ‘Certificate’) must have come in very handy for ‘tax purposes’ - which is, after all, one main reason why he (Manchester) orchestrated the whole thing.
David Farrant
That was insane.
Right up there with some of the craziest stuff I’ve ever heard anywhere. Holy shit.
Maybe it is Crazy, but it’s all genuine and it’s all happening believe me. My group Enigma Of The Old Catholic Church is NOW in compliant with MSN rulings and is fully accessible. But due to the sensitive nature of our findings and research I have had to make it private and locked. However readers and members of this blog can all join in the fun if they like.
However on another note today we have received an email which quite clearly says that Bishop Illydt Thomas is NO member of the Old Catholic Churches of the Union of Utrecht, Sean Manchester isn’t and neither is anyone else of that Cabal.
Kind regards and best wishes
Catherine
for Alex,
I think I’d better ‘cool it’ a little posting here. Feelings on the subject of ‘bishop’ Manchester seem to be getting a little heated, as they have on other Boards.
Can I just point this out (which is obviously eligible for checking) . . .
‘Archbishopip Illytd Thomas’ - the man who ‘consecrated’ ‘Manchester in 1991 was jusst a local well known publicity-seeker in Barnet, North London. (I know his address and telephone number but obviously would not give this out publicly here).
As well as this, he is an old man aged 88 now, and not very well. So I do not think it fair to invite him to be so troubled.
But, for the record, this Old Catholic Church lot, seem to be just a load of phoney’s.
Let me be clear about this without ‘attacking’ anybody.
These Old Catholics rely on the ‘Laying on of Hands’ as their right to ‘Apolostic Succession.’ Well, so much is fact. That’s what they do. But examine the facts, and some interesting things come to light .. .
Illytd Thomas (he above-mentioned local publicity-seeker) was ‘consecrated by Anthony Walker and John Williamss on 20th May, 1979; who, in turn, consecrated ‘bishop’ Manchester at the United Reform Church in Barnet on 4th Octoiber 1991.
But forgetting Manchester, can we perhaphs examime Illtyd Thoaas’s ‘credentilas’!?
Because on 27th July 1985, Thomas was subsequently consecrated sub contitions by Bertil Peresson a self-professed ‘Professor’ from Sweden.
“Sub conditionms” is, in fact, a ‘consecration process’ these ‘Old Catholic Prioests’ have if they are not sure that the original one was valid!
I have personally checked the credentials of Illtyd Thomas’s ‘consecrators’ and haaaave not found these to be at all satisfactory.
Perosson, for example, is a well known supporter of extreme right-wing policics (just like Manchester) and it would appear that he never even set foot in England ti ‘Lay his Hands’ on Illtyd Thomas!
Please don’t get me wrong folks. I am not personally a supporter of any political system (or any religious ones come to that); but it would seem to me, that Mr. Manchetster’s credentials, are about as bona fida as the group of religious fnatics he hangs out with.
Bishop?? No way. Manchester is no more qualified to call himself a ‘bishop’, than I would be entitled to claim that I am really the ‘King of Spain’!
Still, I guess it takes all sorts!
David Farrant
That’s about finally blown this pantomime out of the water, and notice, no-one is coming back to us from anywhere to refute it! The bottom lione is they all must be a set of wannabbee RC priests who for one reason or another have been rejected so set up their own “church” instead—-you only have to go into the various sites to see them all dolled up like pantomime dames in their tea pot cosies and crinolines to get the picture–literally!
It is a case of them all propping each others phony institutions up! No great hearm would have been done prpbabaly if they ahd not attracted such a publicity seeker as Manchester who has sigle handedly brought them all into disrepute. Because they have been unable to shut him up or get rid of him, they have —it would seem–taken the easy option by placating him and issuing him with his “Ad–hahaha Clerum” credentials which are worth naff all, as we have now found out from the only Old Catholic Church with any credibility at all—the Old Catholic Church of Utretch—in Utretch!!!!! that all this English lot with various branches are not anything to do with them at all, and are simply—it would appear–to be defectors using the respected name with a few tweaks here and there—to make it seem that they a re valid!
So not only is old Catweazle invalid, the people who have said he is valid are invalid and they can all be dismissed as imposters. The only Old Catholic Church with any credentials is the Utretch one in Utretch—-who do not recognise wither Sean Manchester or ILLTYD THOMAS!
greewych
Visions and Vampires (3 version)
When Lord Manchester metamorphosed into the Reverend Manchester of the Holy Grail Church on that memorable day at a Barnet church in 1990, the Holy Spirit was reported to drop in on the ceremony at a north London church. It took the form of a “holy shimmering light” which , at the moment of anointing, fluttered down upon on the new priest’s freshly crimped curls and entered the rear of his head . This ” inexplicable golden illumination” was actually witnessed, though by whom the subsequent report does not state , but happily someone was handily at hand with their camera to take photos of this mysterious phenomenon, which , to less excited minds , shows a pale shadow on the wall which looks rather like the sun shining through a window. Not content with this sign of divine favour, the following year , at another church service to fast-track Father Sean from priestdom to Bishopdom, St Francis appeared in a vision at the service of elevation . In a report of this next marvel and wonder, we hear that ” a vision of Saint Francis as a fellow disciple and guide seemed to appear on the vestments before him…the vision lasted just a few moments before before the warm glow of the Holy Spirit filled the new bishop’s entire being. Those participating in the laying on of hands also experienced an inexplicable heat.” Hmmm. Well, I saw a picture of Jesus in a potato I was peeling the other day ! An even better opportunity to emphasise the Bishop’s high status in the heavenly heirachy, came six years later with the tragic death of Princess Diana. Never one to miss a trick, his reverence leapt upon this bandwagon faster than Henri Paul footed the gas through the Alma Tunnel. As Gothic Press, the Bishops shop front, had not yet quite got to grips with the Internet ,photocopied snail mails from the London box number he operated from were soon creeping round the globe describing how the Princess of Wales, in a dream, came floating across a lake in her diaphanous nightie on the fatal night of the crash to the slumbering bishop, and, as their eyes shyly locked, she held out a brimming chalice to him . He woke up sobbing to hear the dreadful news on his radio and noted , to his great amazement , that the moment of the princess’s death coincided exactly with his dream! This absurd story beggars belief. Even in the world of spirit, it is hard to see why someone who has just “passed over ” could appear to someone unknown to them in life! If the princess was going to make a final farewell to anyone then she would have obviously gone to her sons, not to some obscure vampire hunting bishop of whose existence she was completely unaware ! Worse was to come ! Inspired by the beatific vision, the bishop was transported to vertiginous heights of minstrelsy and composed a “musical tribute,” entitled ” Death and Transfiguration “, starring himself of course on his world famous blowings on his trusty sax. The result was an ear splitting excruciating ninety minute fugue of clanks, screams, tears, tantrums and a babel of maudlin warblings from the stricken masses, and oscar winning crocodile tears from the tone deaf bishop himself. . A discordant hideous cacophony of sound as ever assaulted the ear of mankind with lyrics , if anything,in even worse taste than the noise–it can hardly be called it music ! “Diana, thou precious princess, Queen of all our hearts….our lady of the lake, we love you, hear our cry, sweet English Rose, touching the lepers with thy spotless hands, we shall love thee till the day we die…….”.and so on and so forth. However, according to his press office, reports were soon flooding in claiming that those whose shell likes had not been permanently damaged by this horrible racket, were also having visions of the princess ! Amazing ! The strange thing was that before Diana’s untimely death the Bishop had little time for her, comparing her to her notorious ancestor, Lady Caroline Lamb, considering them both attention seeking feckless floosies who could never tell the truth about anything. He thundered against the sins of the flesh from his box number,( and later the Internet ), but Diana’s death was too useful in the promotion of his own image to let her (and his) tacky past get in the way . Mercifully he stopped short of transforming her into a vampire legend once she was in her tomb, though for a while this seemed a distinct possibility. The Earl would probably have objected ! Notably also, the bishop had no visions of Princess Margaret and the Queen Mum in their nighties paying him a visitation when they passed away a few years later, and neither did he make such a fuss when one of his close friends died in 2004 !Is the Bishop genuinely deluded or is he suffering from Munchausen’s syndrome, making up a fantasy world for himself ? Could any of his tales actually be true ? As well as the above situations, he has claimed to hunt vampires and werewolves and done battle with a giant spider,matters which have already been discussed in other articles. Though no particular fan of Princess Diana, I feel sorry that she has been used in the Bishop’s self-styled, one- man- band, ego -boosting campaign ! He’ll be calling himself ” her Rock ” next ! Look out Paul Burrell!
Brilliant piece, Greenwych What makes it so memorable, is that every word is true (at least, true in the sense that Manchester was trying to make people believe it was ‘true’!).
If he stood by all this as a joke, I suppose it would almost be funny. But lets make no mistake about it, Manchester was being deadly serious - not trying to be funny.
I think you are right. The man has a serious mental problem, which extends not only into believing that he was visited by the spirit of Princess Di, but that is related by blood descent to Lord Byron; is a genuine bishop, and that he ’staked’ at least two vampires!
No. This is no comedy show (which it otherwise should be). It is for REAL. At least in the mind of this deranged lunatic!
Well written, Greenwych. This piece should go down as a part of history; albeit a surrealistic one!
David (Farrant)
Not to mention that he’s related to King Arthur, next he’ll be saying he’s related to Merlin and Sir Lancelot.
Catherine Fearnley
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Bishop Manchester is not a bishop of the Old Catholic Church of the Union of Utretch. We have this in writing from that Church. Neither is Illtyd Thomas who “ordained him”.
He is recognised by the Independent Catholic Alliance,who call themselves the Utretch Succession for what thats worth when its at home, as a self employed indendent Bishop of his own “church” in Bournemouth which he has called the British Old Catholic Church, and is not the same as the Old Catholic Church of Great Britain.
It woudl appear that these guys are just wanting to dress up in robes and are in no way connected with the Old Catholic Church of the Union of Utretcvh and they should not be making out that theya re.
What their position actually is from the “validity” point of view is questionable, but “Bishop” Mnachester has led people up the Garden path for long enough giving out the impression he is part of a proper church.
What the “English bishops” for want of a better description have to do with him is a mystery anyway, as they are all their own seperate churches and not in charge of each other–we have been told quite clearly by Father John Kersel of the IOCC that Bishop Manchester has no “boss” or superior, he can do as he pleases, so therefore, it would follow that it is not up to them to say whether he is valid or not as he is not part of their church.
We are still waiting for the Primate of the Roman Catholic Church in England to answer us, we have sent him all those photos of Cardinal Hume and what Sean Manchester is making out to bolster his case, that Cardinal Hume is supposed to have said–as he is now deceased he cannot defend himself. We have ahd a reply before Christmas and further investigations are pending, and will go all the way to Rome if need be!
Many years ago I was told by a very eminant churchman who exorcised the Bermida Triange that Manchester was a bogus bishop and I was advised not to have anything to do with him!
HMMM–pity I didnt take his advise if I say so meself!
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Bishop Manchester is not a bishop of the Old Catholic Church of the Union of Utretch. We have this in writing from that Church. Neither is Illtyd Thomas who “ordained him”.
He is recognised by the Independent Catholic Alliance,who call themselves the Utretch Succession for what thats worth when its at home, as a self employed indendent Bishop of his own “church” in Bournemouth which he has called the British Old Catholic Church, and is not the same as the Old Catholic Church of Great Britain.
It woudl appear that these guys are just wanting to dress up in robes and are in no way connected with the Old Catholic Church of the Union of Utretcvh and they should not be making out that theya re.
What their position actually is from the “validity” point of view is questionable, but “Bishop” Mnachester has led people up the Garden path for long enough giving out the impression he is part of a proper church.
What the “English bishops” for want of a better description have to do with him is a mystery anyway, as they are all their own seperate churches and not in charge of each other–we have been told quite clearly by Father John Kersel of the IOCC that Bishop Manchester has no “boss” or superior, he can do as he pleases, so therefore, it would follow that it is not up to them to say whether he is valid or not as he is not part of their church.
We are still waiting for the Primate of the Roman Catholic Church in England to answer us, we have sent him all those photos of Cardinal Hume and what Sean Manchester is making out to bolster his case, that Cardinal Hume is supposed to have said–as he is now deceased he cannot defend himself. We have ahd a reply before Christmas and further investigations are pending, and will go all the way to Rome if need be!
Many years ago I was told by a very eminant churchman who exorcised the Bermida Triange that Manchester was a bogus bishop and I was advised not to have anything to do with him!
HMMM–pity I didnt take his advise if I say so meself!
damiana
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Lord Manchester, like his ancestor Byron, was destined to both dazzle and dismay the society in which he moved sometimes to the point of suffering social ostracism because of either the dash he cut or the principles he refused to surrender.His writings and behaviour attract a loyal following but also the wrath of those who either do not approve , for their own dark reasons, despise his example. As the dusk of the twentieth century approaches chivalric knights in the Robin Hood mould seem all the more anachronisms. Yet against the dull canvas of today their flamboyant dashes of colour are all that remains to keep peoples dreams alive–that and the memory of past legends.
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Sean Manchester follows very much in the tradition of Grail Knight, the Robin Hood, the fighter against evil, the protector of the weak and champion of his people. Dreamers there will always be, but Manchester represents the DREAMER IN ACTION –and endangered species these days. Heroes and hero worship have become exceedingly umpopular as cold technology replaces passion and spirit but the idea of heriosm lives on in the folk memory and group soul of our culture. Part of that culture and folklore is the the Robin HOOD syndrome, the former aristocrat who sacrifices everything to fight for what IS right and eventually joins ordinary folk in their struggle both as their inspirations and champion. Whether it is the Earl of Huintingdon Lord Byron , Lawrence of Arabia or currently Lord Manchester; they have always ignored the convention and custom of their time for the sake of a greater good. Such heroes share a softness about them as well as a hardness of purpose. Like El Cid, in the same day they might well humble a king and yet share their water pouch with a leper.
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Manchester was born as the Atomic age began and Romantisism faced extinction–almost a last bulwark against the growing tide of post war cynisism and materialism. Born in the heart of Sherwood Forest he spent his formative years at the family home in Newstead Abbey where he could roam as a child betwixt the semi ruin disposessed by order of Henry VIII before becoming the ancestral home of the Byrons and his grandfathers many acres of woodland where a comfrotable lodge had bee built. Between the age of three and five however, the young lord was to spend much of his life in Canada America Europe and Ireland. The following period saw a number of tutors and brief flirtations with the educational system. The Harrow, Byrons old school. Manchester hated school life and left without permission at the age of fourteen. During the next few years Manchester took an interest in various fields yet despite his successes he discovered his forte in writing about his adventures and also photo-journalism. Photo journalism and investigative writing beame his main occupations but in recent years authorhip and publishing have played a major role.
IN 1967 Sean Manchester was made life president of the British Occult Society. Since then he has been appointed vice president,president and patron of dozens of organisations including the New Romantic Movement, the president of the London Robin Hood Club and aptron of the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society.
He is also Kinight Commander of the Order of the Sangraal, a secret fellowship of Grail knights and disciples who act as monolothic, combat efficient spearhead of the New Age, fighting Satanism and similar left hand path practises which clutter entry into the new time ahead.
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Born an Anglo Catholic, he now belongs to the Church of the Holy Grail which is the oldest Christian church in existence. On the 8th of August 1987 he married Sarah Jane in Wiltshire Close, at the mystical monuments of legend at Avebury and Stonehenge. She is a direct descendent of Charles 11 through the Duke of Monmouth and still ahs a legal claim to land once possessed by her ancestors. Her husband, Lord Manchester, connects by his blood line to King James 1,and more difficult to proove, King Arthur of the Britons. Both have ricj Celtic blood in their veins.
Of his many writings The Highgate Vampire is to date his most popular and best selling. Published in 1985 it recounts the eerie tale of Satanism and its ill effects upon Highgate Cemetary and the authors struggle to combat the dark powers unleashed on contemporary London as the legend of the vampire becomes once again unearthed. This next book–Gothic images–promises to be a celebration of dark romantisism to coincide with the double centenart of Byron’s birth in 1788. It will mostly consist of photogrpahy by Lord Manchester which ahs been selected from the twenty five years of his work. Liek the man his work always has an authority to inspire because it cannot be judged by conventional codes and cannons.
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“The Holy Spirit appeared to hover above Father Dirk’s head at the precise moment of his ordination and was photographed by many of those present. Father Dirk later reported experiencing a feeling of ineffable bliss as he knelt before the bishop , though it was not until after the ceremony that he was aware that anything untoward had happened.”
Greta looked again at the picture and suddenly realised that there was a faint shadow on the wall against which Father Dirk’s head was silhouetted. This, she assumed , must be the Holy Spirit. She couldn’t see anything more specific. Well,either Father Dirk was ,as the book claimed, a cross between St George and Superman, or he was completely psychotic , but she would have to reserve her judgement ! The final photograph showed a fully fledged Father Dirk, complete with cassock,dog collar and pom pommed biretta. He stood with his hands clasped over his breast, an ornate crucifix dangling prominently through his fingers and a pained expression on his face. He looked to have put on a little weight over the years, and was,alas ,no longer quite as dashing as he had been in his “Beau” days. His features, which had been finely chiselled in his youth, were now merely beaky , while his shock of golden curls , which,when he was Beau, had fallen over his brow in glossy profusion , had thinned and dulled and lay limply across his forehead, reminding Greta,unhappily,of an ageing cherub . The text continued , somewhat predictably, “Father Dirk has his failings,many failings,certainly, but he remains untainted by the baser vices. And his virtues, his good qualities–are all of the higher order. He is honourable and open in all his dealings, and he is kind. He is deeply affected by the distress of others, while at the same time pleased when they prosper. Tender hearted to a degree, not usual with most men, he shrinks, with feminine sensibility, from the sight of cruelty. He is true spoken ,benevolent and brave; his calmness and presence of mind ,in the hour of danger, are the offspring of reflection and a cool resolution to act becomingly and well. He is alive to every indication of good feeling in others, while his unstinted devotion to duty at times moves him to tears. By both his habits and his nature, Father Dirk is incapable of any mean compliance, any undue submission towards those who command reverence and exact flattery from men of the highest genius , but he is neither vain glorious, nor overbearing.He is the epitome of chivalry and honour. Of his lesser qualities,very little need be said, because his most inveterate detractors have done justice to his powers of pleasing and to the irresistible charms of his general deportment. There is,indeed,something about him not to be definitely described, but almost universally felt, which captivates those around him and,despite themselves,they are impressed by his amiable and faultless manners. In mixed society Father Dirk seeks no limelight for himself and behaves with quiet charm and modesty ;nevertheless he can hold his own in any company. He relates to all kinds without unbecoming condescension to his inferiors, and at all times is a free and merry companion,without ever transgressing the bounds of good breeding and impeccable manners , even for a second. Of himself,Father Dirk
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says, “My humble mission in life is to set the world alight again,to be a torch bearer
for Jesus and to kindle the spirit of romanticism also,though obviously I don’t mean those frightful new pop stars. The world has become a dark and sinful place, the quality of life has deteriorated. I want to go back to the time when one’s word was one’s bond, when one was courteous to the gentler sex,for I love all women and long to serve them. But I am a priest, not a politician, yet I cannot ignore the voice of the people when they cry out to me !”
By now Greta was seeing double and could hardly keep awake. She wondered vaguely what had become of Martian, but there was little she could do about whatever predicament he had got himself into– he would have to look after himself, though that was something he was not very good at . No doubt he had fallen asleep somewhere after his spliff or been picked up by the police. Glancing at the clock on the mantelpiece she saw that it was after midnight. She returned to her reading,though by now her eyelids felt like lead weights.
The biography continued in much the same rhapsodic vein as previously, interspersed with numerous accounts of the verbal atrocities and defamations of character which Father Dirk had had to suffer over the years from his enemies, of which he seemed to have rather a lot. Threats of writs for libel against his person, and theft of copyright from the best-selling books he had written, one entitled ” The Hampstead Horror ” describing how Father Dirk saved a community from a vampire in the nineteen seventies (£12.99 plus £1.00 postage) and another entitled “Plucked from the Brink ” which told how “the peoples’ priest heroically rescued an innocent young maiden from the clutches of evildoers , and of her conversion to his church where she was rechristened Sister Drusilla.” ( £7.99 plus £ 1.00 postage ) . There was also a gruesomely illustrated magazine published by his Society for the Suppression of Anthropomorphic and Irredeemable Demonical Activities ,of which he was president and founder , called Tears of Blood, which was mainly concerned with his never-ending battles against Satanism and witchcraft, which seemed to be happening on every street corner.A detailed and incredibly complicated family tree ,on the next page, showed Father Dirk’s descent from the notorious Hellfire Francis . It appeared that the foundress of Father Dirk’s illustrious dynasty was a chambermaid by the name of Betsy Flathers who Sir Francis had seduced and then abandoned when she became pregnant. The result of this brief liaison was Father Dirk’s blood line, but as he was bend sinister he was debarred from succession to the title .Greta did pause to wonder how he came to bear the name Dashwood, and she wondered if he had christened himself with it by Deed Poll.His real name was probably Fred Bloggs,she mused .A portrait of Sir Francis, next to the family tree, showed an innocuous looking young man dressed in oriental style, no doubt in anticipation of some Satanic revels in his spooky caverns. The text stated that Father Dirk bore an “uncanny resemblance ” to his ancestor, though Greta could see not the slightest similarity. The final pages of this spectacular biography were references to other matters which caused Father Dirk sleepless nights .One was the Royal Family, which,unfortunately for them,apart from the Queen and her gracious mother , were
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other matters which caused Father Dirk sleepless nights. One was the Royal Family, which, unfortunately for them, apart from the Queen and her sainted mother,was on his list of those undoubtedly doomed to everlasting perdition . He considered the younger members of the institution to be vastly deficient in their approach to the sacred duties of their noble station , which boded ill for the future of mankind. In particular, he loathed Fergie and Diana ,whom he considered to be Scarlet Women and Jezebels, interested only in pursuing their own blasphemous and depraved careers. Another of his bogeys was the media, who continually insisted in misquoting and misrepresenting him, but whose attentions, it would appear, he continued to welcome , as a host of recent newspaper headlines accompanied this statement.The person who emerged from the pages of this rapturous plaudit left Greta gasping for breath. One thing was certain,however. If Father Dirk was only half of what he claimed, then all her problems were already solved ! She closed the booklet, noting on the back cover, written in small print, a postscript.
“This small and humble tribute,” it read, ” has been written by Brother Tristam Turpin, trusted confidante and disciple of Father Dirk Dashwood of the Church of Holy Souls. Brother Tristam met Father Dirk some years ago after his return from Africa where he had served as a Dog of War. He intended continuing with his evil career of violence and bloodshed in the Third World, but upon meeting Father Dirk he was instantly converted to Christianity and became one of Father Dirk’s earliest and most faithful followers. He has been allowed unrestricted access into the papers and hitherto unpublished memoirs of this enigmatic and complex Englishman ,of whom even his critics have written “Love him or loathe him , you cannot remained unmoved .” Those who support his crusade against the powers of darkness have absolute faith in him , and it is not without good reason that Dirk Dashwood is known as the most celebrated vampirologist and exorcist of the twentieth century. It is the author’s heartfelt wish that the reader, having perused this little booklet, will feel inspired to seek further enlightenment from Father Dirk’s ministry.” Details of a London box number followed and instructions about postal orders and cheques.
At that moment Lena bustled out of the kitchen,still singing gaily,this time a quavering air about the biggest aspidistra of them all. She held two steaming cups in her hands and handed one to Greta who looked at the greyish contents suspiciously.
“It’s barley cup,” explained Lena, abruptly abandoning her repertoire. “It’s very good for you. My homeopath swears by it. It does wonders for my irritable bowel syndrome. I’ve made it specially for you.”
She glanced at the television and gave a little shriek of horror at
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The Abobe original article was written by “Lord Manchesters” wife around 1987, before he elevated himself to bishopdom. The other part is from my book Spirit of the Greenwood, based on the article “Our patron Lord Manchester” and other similar frightful flowery effusions from his own fair knib.!!!!
The whole thing can become a bit drawn out, Barbara, when people try to deal with his alleged credentials. Put simply, he hasn’t got any (apart from a mass-produced ‘Certificate’ with the name “Bishop Manchester” typed in on it for which he paid somewhere in the region of £100 (he had to pay for the private hire of the church in Barnet, of course, and the food, and the video fiming on top of this).
The whole thing is really one big joke (almost as funny as his claims to have ’staked’ two vampires!).
Even funnier (if that’s possible) are the writings that he circulated about himself putting his wife’s name to them.
One line in one of these self-written screeds, I particularlly remember:
She (he) is describing this “brave and nobel knight” who in one word “would silence a king, and the next moment share his water-pouch with a leper”!
What sort of a sick mind does it take to write garbage like this.? The only value it has is for sheer amusement!
For now,
David Farrant
NEWS FLASH
“The ICA [Independent Catholic Alliance] will not tolerate abuse from individuals that seek to cause distress to either Clergy or laity of the ICA.
Any such people will be named and emails messages exposed on this website and further legal action will be taken”.
This message has just appeared on the front page of the ICA website. I wonder who they were referring to? Catherine, Barbara or myself? I somehow think not!
On the same page also appears this message . . .
“Announcement - Ad Clerum
AD CLERUM RELATING TO ARCHBISHOP MANCHESTER - THE ICA HAS WITHDRAWN ITS SIGNATURES AND SUPPORT OF THE AD CLERUM, ANY WEBSITE THAT STATES THAT THE ICA SUPPORTS, OR HAS SIGNATORIES OF ANY CLERGY FROM THE ICA SUPPORTING THIS AD CLERUM IS INCORRECT AND IN ERROR”
No, good people. I am not making this up. Here is the main link (I hope!) . .
http://www.independentcatholicalliance.org.uk/index.html
(Good, it worked!, but pl;ease be patient; the whole site is very slow).
More to followow tomorrow, but for the moment just enjoy!
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PS Looks like you’re back on your (’Churchless’) own again, Sean. But nice try, anyway! David
Hi Alex
Here’s a good one for you on the James Randi site. Its 18 pages.
Look at the picture on Pg. 13 (top). But whatever you do, don’t look too quickly! Talk about demented and evil - it doesn’t even need a caption.
Link is at:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=2227315
Sorry to do this to you. But you really must see it!
For the moment,
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Hello everyone…I can’t believe this “vampire-hunting Bishop” is still up to his old tricks…ok how’s this for “Manchester is a boob”…
http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Art.htm
http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Art2.htm
The first page shows some rather hilarious, amateurish paintings.
The second page, except for ‘Sarah’, consists of photographs which have been put through a heavy computer graphics filter. NOT oil paintings as is claimed under each picture.
Also… “Bruno, teddy bear extraordinaire”?! wtf??
btw Alex, congrats on getting an original Charles Addams.
…and here are some of his ‘followers’, debating the biology of vampires with deadly seriousness…
http://groups.msn.com/TheCrossandTheStake/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=6751&LastModified=4675590658559922923
You can’t make this stuff up.
He must have seen your post, and realising that he’s been ’sused’ has quickly taken them down!
Not to worry. We have copies of most of them. So the forgery can still be proved. What a faker!
David
Hi American Psycho—I cant understand the paintings! I can understand him making other people look hideous out of spite but he makes himself and his pals looks ghastly also! Does he need his eyes testing also?(as well as his head!)
greenwych
Hi Alex,
Someone just sent me this link which is interesting because the material on it about myself and Catherine has almost all been personally orchastrated by Manchester (using aliases, of course, and then denying that it was him).
Somebody just said that he seems to be a ‘bit obsessed with myself’. Well, that must be the understatement of the year! He’s obsessed to the extent that I seem to occupy most of his waking life (and I wouldn’t be surprised if he dreams about me either!).
Anyway, link is:
http://home.triad.rr.com/flintlocklaser/exorcise.html
Only be prepared for a long haul. But it just proves how much time he spends on me (basically saying that I’m unimportant!).
Have fun!
David (Farrant)
Hi David,
Are you still having problems viewing Manchester’s ‘art’ pictures? Your bloody computer is antique because it’s so slow. Have fun as always. Catherine
For Catherine,
Please don’t knock my computer, sweetheart, it does its job.
Quite apart from which, remember you are in public now; so less of the swearing!
Yours as always,
David
His dangerous humbug should be stopped before someone takes him seriously and takes his advice and goes out with their “sextons shovel” and handmade stake hunting vampires!
Me swear?! my love it was just a figure of speech. As for your computer doing it’s job, well it might do eventually when you’ve waited half the night to even get onto emails.
Yours for the moment, love
Catherine
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