WordPress database error: [Table './db97824_wp/wp_comments' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed]
DESC wp_comments


Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /nfs/c06/h04/mnt/97824/domains/alexanderlucard.com/html/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/briansthreadedcomments.php on line 96

WordPress database error: [Table './db97824_wp/wp_comments' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed]
ALTER TABLE wp_comments ADD COLUMN comment_reply_ID INT NOT NULL DEFAULT 0;

WordPress database error: [Table './db97824_wp/wp_comments' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed]
DESC wp_comments


Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /nfs/c06/h04/mnt/97824/domains/alexanderlucard.com/html/wordpress/wp-content/plugins/briansthreadedcomments.php on line 105

Review #447

WWE ‘12
Developer: Yukes
Publisher: THQ
Genre: Wrestling
Release Date: 11/22/2011

I’m a big fan of wrestling games. I have fond memories of Fire Pro Wrestling: Six Man Scramble for the Sega Saturn and Toukon Retsuden 4 for the Sega Dreamcast. I still occasionally pull out WWF Rage in the Cage for my Sega CD and I even listed WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2006 as one of my ten favorite games for the Playstation 2. Unfortunately there is a lot of bad with the good. I’ve sat through steaming piles of crap like TNA Impact! and Wrestlemania XXI. Hell, Wrestlemania XXI not only received the lowest score I’ve ever given a game (at the time), but it was unanimously elected into the Video Game Hall of Shame when it was nominated.

WWE video games have been especially hit or miss over the last few years. You never knew what you were getting with the Smackdown Vs. Raw series. 2006? Great game. 2007? GM mode was ruined, controls weren’t as good and there were noticeable bugs that weren’t in 2006. It was noticeably worse and people complained. 2008? Well known for its terrible controls and design, along with a score of bugs. The Wii version in particular is cited as being near unplayable. 2009? We reviewed the PSP, PS3 and Wii versions of the game and found all of them to be the be best the series has been since 2006. After a two year slump, Yukes got their act together once again. 2010 was not as good as 2009, but it still had its moments. Then came 2011. Wow was this game not good. Kennedy reviewed it and it nearly drove him to drink. I myself owned the PS3 version. While I couldn’t say my experiences were as bad as Kennedy’s with the Wii version – it still wasn’t a good game by any means. I mean, I was consistently in the Top Ten for the rankings and am well known for my CAWs for the game, but WWE Universe was horribly done (title matches only on the PPV and no control over the booking of them). The game was bug ridden and while I enjoyed all five versions of Road TO Wrestlemania, I basically just made CAWs and found myself consistently shocked at the downturn in terms of controls along with how insanely easy the game was.

Yukes seemed to take the massive amount of complaints 2011 got to heart and promised a lot of fixes. They also gave us Brock Lesnar, the Road Warriors, Vader and Demolition as playable legends. That’s a mark out moment for me. So, even though I was pretty disappointed with 2011, I decided to give the series one last chance. Now repackaged as WWE ‘12, I was dismayed to learn that the game was just 2011 with some slight improvements and a LOT of new issues.

Let’s Review

1. Modes

In terms of modes - WWE ‘12 is almost exactly the same as Smackdown Vs. Raw 2011. You have the same match types which is sad because it shows that Yukes didn’t even try to add any new matches. Casket and Buried Alive matches are still missing from the game. Table matches still have the same issue as last year where you can’t actually put guys on top of regular tables, and you can’t have more than six wrestlers in a ring at once. Why my Sega Genesis could handle a four on four Survivor Series match and Yukes has yet to be able to make this happen since they got the license during the Playstation ONE era is beyond me. Same with the Royal Rumble. I could have nine wrestlers in 2000 on my Dreamcast but Yukes hasn’t figured out how to make a quality game where I can have more than six on a PS3, Wii or 360? In the words of Shane Helms, “What’s up with that?” We get a decent example of WHY Yukes hasn’t tried in Road to Wrestlemania this year when the entire game culminated with WAR GAMES, the old NWA/WCW gimmick match supreme that older wrestling fans haven’t been able to see in over a decade. Well, Yukes tried but the end result was a massive train wreck plagued by more slowdown, frame rate issues and collision detection problems than at any other point in the game. It also doesn’t help that the match is scripted (more on that later) completely and they had to make it an elimination match simply because, once again, Yukes has yet to figure out how to make a four on four or five on five match after all these years of making NJPW, WWF and WWE games.

The game brings back a lot of the different “Create-A-” Modes where you can design your own wrestlers, logos, finishers, story lines and more. All of these are exactly the same as in SDvR2k11 however, meaning “Create a Finisher” is poorly done, especially when compared to something like Fire Pro Wrestling D. Again, how Yukes could make this mode worse than one we had a decade ago on the Dreamcast is beyond me. Creating your own wrestlers and storylines are very well done however and it’s a lot of fun to make those if you’re into replicating classic wrestlers from the past or soap operas such as, “Eddie Guerrero Vs. Edge Vs. Dolph Ziggler for the love of Vickie.” I personally created Dan “The Beast” Severn and Masahiro Chono for the game, and will end up making a few others. The new thing this year is “Create an Arena,” where I was able to make a replica of an AWA ring from the 1980s, complete with logo. That was pretty cool. Unfortunately the server has reset itself repeatedly since I received my review copy and I’ve had to upload my creations four times. Annoying.

WWE Universe is somewhat improved. You can have title matches whenever you want, which is a HUGE improvement from 2011 which was so badly designed I was shocked people were paid to make it. Unfortunately (there’s that word again), if you book a title match, it won’t count toward any trophies you are trying to earn, and you still can’t change the competitors in a #1 contendor’s match. If you try that, it resets to a regular match. The cinematics are exactly the same as last year same for the introduction of injuries, but unfortunately, injuries don’t work correctly at all. For example, Chono pretty much murdered Ted Dibiase and he has a career ending injury. He’s still not back months later and he is completely unselectable in WWE Universe. That’s how it should be right? Well a few in-game weeks later, Chono injured Christian with another career ending injury. Well, oddly enough, I wrestling Christian for three straight weeks after that even though he wasn’t selectable anywhere else and he shows up as injured on the Superstar list. The fourth week WE WERE TAG TEAM PARTNERS, the fifth week we were tag partners again but he turned on me and the sixth week we had a triple threat match with Wade Barrett and after the match Christian and Chono hugged and then Christian was never seen again. What the hell? Once again, a Yukes game makes Bethesda or Obsidian title look bug free. This is just one of the MANY bugs in the game we’ll be looking at, but it’s specific to Universe so I thought I’d mention it here.

Finally, we have Road To Wrestlemania, which is not only scaled back from last year (down from five options to three AND it’s not completely linear instead of being able to choose), but it is without hyperbole, the worst this mode has ever been in the history of story modes for wrestling games going all the way back to the original Smackdown. The big problem is that this year, it’s basically an interactive novel instead of a wrestling game. Sure you play a little bit, but it’s only to get to the point where you press the triangle button and then a scripted ending happens. You don’t even get to have a full match, you just take your characters to specific spots, press triangle and then watch everything be decided for you. I think I was able to actually finish a match under my own control three times throughout the entire thing. I just found it utterly distasteful that I would dominate the computer, but then I’d have to drag them to a particular spot, press triangle and watch my guy lose for some reason. You know what would have been nice? Branching paths. It would have made the game flow better, offered more replay value and let the gamer feel more involved instead of just along for the ride. Last year’s mode did it and hell, it’s been done since the first Smackdown for the PSX. Yukes needs to be evolving, not backsliding and gamers need to hold them accountable – otherwise they’re just part of the problem as well.

There three stories in Road to Wrestlemania feature Sheamus, HHH and a made up wrestler voiced by TNA wrestler Austin Aries. With Sheamus you start off injuring John Cena then forming an all UK alliance with Wade Barrett, William Regal and Drew Mcintyre – eventually winning all the titles. Then you injure HHH and abruptly breakup without any real reason or sensibility and have a four way dance at Wrestlemania for all the titles. The idea of an all British stable is awesome, but it’s implemented poorly through objective based bits rather than actual wrestling matches. What’s worse is that you lose the majority of matches in the Sheamus storyline and it’s not actually YOU losing but the cut scene deciding you lose. I’m sorry, but watching your character lose simply because the game wants it to is not only boring, but stupid. It’s basically the equivalent of the “DM vs PC” style of tabletop gaming that is almost universally criticized. I grew irritated and then completely lost interest after repeatedly jobbing throughout my storyline. Add in non nonsensical face/heel swerves throughout an a weird quasi feud with the Four Horsemen when only Arn Anderson is in the game, and you have a storyline that could have been GREAT, but simply ended up being insipid. This was TNA bad. This was “Lost in Cleveland,” “Katie Vick” or “Mae Young gives birth to a hand” bad.

The HHH storyline was equally dull as it was the same repeated storyline throughout. HHH gets injured. HHH comes back and squashes everyone to win the world title. Repeat three times but change who does the injury until Summerslam when HHH wins the title and retires. Yawn. The lack of forethought or any attempt to make anything of quality is most apparent here. I actually laughed out loud when HHH was randomly jackknifed by Kevin Nash, who had never shown up until that moment and then is never seen nor heard from again. Just terrible.

Finally, there is the hero storyline, where the game asks you to insert an already made CAW into the role of Jacob Cass. Unfortunately doing so will overwrite your already saved move-set and entrance. Why the game doesn’t have you make someone new instead of messing up an already made CAW is beyond me. I ended up making a gorilla and using that for Cass because it was just as ludicrous as the rest of the storyline which involves another WCW Invasion. This was as badly done as the alliance storyline with people constantly doing face/heel turns or swerving a heel turn only to not actually turn after all and then turn for real a week or two later in-game time. Seriously this was something that Vince Russo would lack and say, “Man, this is too screwy, even for me.” Much like the Sheamus story, get ready to have a lot of forced jobbing going on. Again, so much potential here, but this WCW based storyline is almost exactly parallel to why WCW eventually fell. The real WCW focused too much on the nWo and never had them lose until everyone, fans and wrestlers alike, burned out. This invasion is exactly the same way and it’s hard to enjoy. Again, a gamer wants to see the character they are playing as win – not job even when they do a really dominate job. That’s not fun.

The bottom line is that Raw ‘12 is several steps backwards from last year’s version, which in itself was steps back from the year before. Yukes and THQ should be improving with each passing game – not getting worse. That’s a sign of laziness, greed and sloppy programming. There should be new matches and notable improvements. Instead everything is worse aside from the ability to control title matches. I was really disappointed by the obvious lack of effort put into this thing and a lot of gamers will feel the same way. When things are the same as they were in the 16 and 32 bit eras of gaming, you know the dev team has no interest in actually making things better for the average gamer.

Modes Rating: 3/10

2. Graphics

Graphics are a mixed bag here. Sure everything is in high definition but there are so many visual bugs and animation issues, it’s hard not to notice them all. For example, characters look a bit weird, especially compared to last year’s version. For the most part, the physical models are great but facial expressions, mouths and eyes look terrible. When a character is talking is some cut scenes it looks like their jaw has been dislocated. You’ll also get exceptionally creepy facial expressions during moves like the head based attack from the limb target system. It’s hard to explain unless you see it firsthand, but that is not an expression that is physically possibly to make unless you are a Muppet. As well, arenas and backgrounds look fantastic, but there are tons of issues each time you start a new card. Yukes and THQ boasted about how you get an intro with pyro and music each time a card starts, but what they didn’t tell you is that this new intro has frame rate issues, speed up and massive slowdown, freezing for a few seconds and some severe animation clipping at times. Worse, there is no way to turn this intro off, so you have to deal with all of these visual eyesores each time you start a card. EVEN WORSE, every time you exit out of a card and come back, you’re still subject to this opening sequence which gets annoy quickly, especially when you can start to tell when the slowdown or freezing of the sequence is going to happen (it’s the same each time). The end result is a very jerky and terribly executed mess that starts off looking great but quickly becomes a technical nightmare. The good news is this sequence has only crashed my PS3 once. Of course other bits of the game have crashed the system, but that’s for down the road in this review. Basically the new opening sequence was made with the best of intentions and with a nod towards emulating an actual Raw or Smackdown card, but the end result is a visual mess that you can’t skip. Why they didn’t include that option is beyond me.

Other visual issues involve frame of animation missing from some moves which creates a jerky mess, invisible walls sometimes showing up in the ring (You’ll be running and treated to the “collision with another wrestler” animation), or be in the middle of doing one move only to have the game jerky and suddenly it’s in the middle of another move altogether. There’s also an issue with blood. I’m noticed that if a wrestler bleeds in a match and you then try to save a moment from the match for your highlight reel or entrance video, the blood is missing. These are all somewhat amusing and minor in the scheme of things, but they can be quite annoying depending on when they happen.

The end result is that Raw ‘12 has character models that are a step backwards from last year with some pretty bad facial animations going on and a score of visual bugs that range from the comical, to rendering a match unplayable (such as when I was Irish whipped and my character phased through the ropes like he was Kitty Pryde and then floated over the announce table, past the guard rail and through the crowd in one frozen character model frame, never to be seen again. The game crashed shortly thereafter…). The bugs aren’t serious ones, but there’s such a plethora of visual issues with the game a critical eye is going to be annoyed more often than not when playing WWE ‘12. A less critical eye is simply going to make a drinking game out it.

Graphics Rating: 5.5/10

3. Sound

You would think that this would be a solidly positive category for WWE ‘12 considering how involved the WWE is with this game, lending its wrestlers and commentators to do voice acting and allowing THQ to have full access to its musical library. Unfortunately, it’s not. Some of the music isn’t quite right. For example, Jerry Lawler doesn’t have “The Great Gate of Kiev” as his entrance theme. It’s something generic. Yet American Dragon aka Daniel Bryan has “Ride of the Valkyries.” So it can’t be some sort of rights issue. There are a few other places where the music doesn’t match up with the character but since you have the ability to upload songs from your MP3 collection and use those instead, it’s a very minor issue.

The major issue is with the voice acting. A lot of the wrestlers just phone it in here. People like Hunter Hearst Helmsley mumble through their lines without any emotion or tone. He ends up sound more like Ben Stein then the guy we’ve seen wrestling for almost twenty years. Other wrestlers making this transgression are Kevin Nash, Wade Barrett and Randy Orton. You’d think these guy had never delivered dialogue before. Considering Nash has always been great on the stick (if not in the ring), this was a disappointment. On the positive side, Austin Aries does a great job as your generic cruiserweight wrestler, as do The Miz, Sheamus, William Regal, Rey Mysterio and Arn Anderson. These five put as much into their voice acting for the game as they do in the ring and as bitchy as I’ve been in this review, they definitely deserve their moment of praise here.

One odd thing that is new here is that the wrestlers trash talk when they do a reversal. This only is audible in a backstage brawl, but it caught me off guard and just seemed out of place. Perhaps it’s simply because there isn’t a lot of talking in an actual match that this stood out so much, but it is worth nothing here. Another odd thing is that in story mode, the voice acting would cut out from time to time. The scene would occur, but it would do so in silence. I’m glad I had subtitles turned on or I’d have no idea what was being said. This bug ends as soon as the cut scenes does and then things go back to normal. It happened to me half a dozen times in Road to Wrestlemania, so don’t be surprised if it happens to you too. A third auditory issue is that sometimes the default crowd cheering will be louder than the commentary. It’s as if the volume for both randomly swaps on very rare occurrences. Still, like the sound going out completely, it’s worth noting that this happens.

Finally, there is the commentating itself. This has been a regular source of scorn by reviewers over the years, although I’m happy to say it’s much improved this year. King and Cole do a pretty good job. The only downside is that there is very little recorded and you’ll hear the same things over and over again – often in the same match. Getting the “Thank You Edge” trophy was a real eye opener to this. With that, you have to win thirty-seven matches as Edge in one session (More on “session” later) and by the time I was done I knew exactly what comments would be made and when. This will happen to anyone going for this trophy, so it would have been nice to see more lines by the announce team. It was a treat to hear King and Cole talk about themselves while they wrestled, breaking the fourth wall on multiple levels though.

Much like the graphics, the audio aspects of Raw ‘12 should have earned pretty high marks from me. Unfortunately, the shoddy programming, phoned in voice acting, recurring bugs and lack of commentary depth has me saying Yukes did a decent job with the audio, but things are nowhere as good as they could have (or should have) been. It’s something you can have fun with, but there are too many technical issues going awry here.

Sound Rating: 5.5/10

4. Control and Gameplay

Now we’ve already talked about a lot of bugs in the game so far, but we haven’t even got to some of the big ones that plague gameplay from beginning to end. Because the rest of the bugs all effect gameplay to varying degrees, I’ll just going to do a big list of them here and get it out of my system. The good news is that it’s not as long as the bug list I did for TNA Impact!. The bad news is that it’s still pretty long.

A. Collision detection issues run rampart in this game. One example would be a wrestler with a longer reach not being able to grab a smaller wrestler, yet the smaller can grab him from the same distance apart.

B. Phasing. Occasionally wrestlers will move right through each other.

C. Reversal issue #1. Sometimes the R2 image (to let you know you can reverse) doesn’t come up. This will adversely affect younger or less skilled gamers, but veterans of wrestling games will know the correct timing by heart.

D. Reversal issue #2. Sometimes the animation severely messes up for a reversal, so the offensive character animation will continue doing the move as if the reversal didn’t go through, only to have it clip to halfway through the reversal animation.

E. Staggering is done in such a way that you can have an infinite attack on an opponent if you time things correctly. This is akin to the infamous double redizzy combo of Guile in the original Street Fighter II. This is going to aggravate some players big time.

F. Opponent detection is invariably broken as soon as you have more than two wrestlers in the ring. Even on auto detection, your wrestler will sometimes aim for the person farthest away from him instead of the one right next to him. If you turn on manual, the game doesn’t tell you how to actual switch between targets so you’re left to fend for yourself. (Hint: it’s not hard). The more opponents, the worse this gets.

G. The game has trouble detecting tags in six man tag matches. Instead of tagging one or the other, you’ll just sit there.

H. L1 is overused. For example it’s both the button for finding an item under the ring and trying to get back in the ring. More than once the game will choose the action that you didn’t want to do. It’s also used to climb the ladder or to pick it up. Again, watch the fun of trying to climb a perfectly placed ladder when everyone is down…and instead you pick it up.

I. There is noticeable slowdown and frame rate issues when you design your own match. The best example of this is in Road to Wrestlemania with its attempts at a “Bragging Rights” match or the weird version of War Games it uses. Things get jerky.

J. If you have springboard attacks and dives on the same character, the game will often choose the wrong one as they both use the same sequence (running + Square) to activate. So instead of diving out of the ring onto an opponent, you springboard onto the canvas and knock yourself out. This also becomes a problem in tag matches. Try to punch the opponent on the apron, and watch yourself springboard instead – even when standing still.

K. The Momentum meter occasionally disappears from the screen for stretches at a time. When this happens you can’t use special moves or signatures. As well, sometimes the meter will fill up signaling you have the option for one or the other, but then it will turn out to be a graphical error and your meter isn’t actually that full. Annoying.

L. Wrestlers stay down for a short but specific amount of time in a match. This leads to hilarity where your opponent never gets to do a move on you (it’s down until you do either two stomps, a submission, two limb targets or four flying moves) as pressing buttons doesn’t get you up any faster. The converse is true in something like a multi person ladder match or Money in the Bank where the wrestler is only down for a brief amount of time (a fraction of what they would be in a single or tag match) and so there is rarely a time where more than one person is on the mat. The rest are all clustered in the middle of the right pounding each other so you can’t do anything with the ladder.

M. I won the Royal Rumble with Masa Chono (coming it at #3!). However, I was never given the choice to face either world champion at Wrestlemania. In fact, Chono wasn’t on the card at all. Hell, the WWE Championship wasn’t on the card. The main event was Ezekiel Jackson Vs. Mark Henry, neither of which had titles. What the hell?

N. I won Money in the Bank with Chono. I was never given the option to cash it in at any point. Then, in a match where Dan Severn beat John Cena for the title, Chono came out and cashed it in on me and I was not allowed to play as him. That’s a pretty bad one to me – especially as a trophy revolves around you being able to cash in the Money in the Bank that you won. The only other option was to play through nearly a year of the game again. Who designed this crap?

O. Speaking of trophies, there are an inordinate amount of bugs around them. Some are not obtainable, meaning if you plan to platinum this game, you’re going to have to wait until Yukes severely patched this. Here’s a list of all the trophies with bugs and what exactly they are:

“The Birth of a Historic Tag Team” – this is based on winning or defending the tag titles with a CAW. This did not trigger when I won the tag titles (Severn and Lawler). It did not trigger on my first five defenses either. It only triggered at WM when I defended them.

“Wildman of the Ring” – this involves breaking twenty tables, ladders or chairs. This triggered after I did forty-three.

“Professional Material” – this involves winning twenty matches on hard or legend in one session. It triggered after 31.

“Submissions Specialist” – this involves winning twenty matches by submission in one session. It triggered after 32 matches won by submission.

“Berserker” – breaking fifty tables, ladders or chairs in one session. This triggered after 13.

“Legend Status” – win fifty matches on hard or legend. This triggered after 21.

“Look At My Titantron” –use a movie created in Custom Entrance in an entrance scene. This NEVER triggered for me even though I wrestled literally hundreds of matches with my two CAWs.

“I’m Gonna be Champion” – win a #1 contendor’s match with a CAW. This never triggered.

“I Like Titles” – win three titles with a CAW. Well, this too never triggered even though Severn held the World Heavyweight title, the IC title AND the tag titles all at once, also while Chono held WWE and US. All were won in WWE universe in matches the game set up rather than myself or just putting belts on them

“Grand Slam Champion” – win five titles with a caw. Never triggered even if I won all the titles with one CAW at the same time or if a CAW had five or more total reigns.

“A Successful Cash In” – Cash in Money in the Bank. It never let me even though I won it.

“My Target at Wrestlemania is…” In WWE Universe choose your opponent with the Royal Rumble Winner. I never even had the option to do so and as mentioned earlier, said winner didn’t even get to WRESTLE at WRESTLEMANIA.

“Holla” – create your own show in WWE Universe. I made two – one for ECW and one for the old AWA. I even played through a full show with each, not sim’ing any matches. It never triggered.

That’s thirteen trophies that have some sort of bug with them – some of which appear to make earning a platinum (or full gamerscore for those with a 360) impossible. Awesome job Yukes.

Whew. Still with me after all that? The good news is that bugs are all random and some of these might not hit you at all. Even the game is playable and it can be quite fun even while it’s a massive technical mess on all levels. Think of it like an episode of Mystery Science Theatre 3000. It plays exactly like Smackdown Vs. Raw 2011 except for more bugs, flaming tables and a non-working injury system. It’s the same matches and same control scheme. Well, not exactly the same. The game tries to claim that a new “limb target system” has been implemented but these games have had this since All Japan Pro Wrestling Vs. Virtua Fighter. Now it’s just all the wrestlers have one guaranteed move to do to each of the limb regions (head, arms and legs) and everyone has the same move for each. Other than that it’s still the same game as it has been for years, complete with the usual collision/move detection issues and the occasional bit of lag or slowdown.

Without the massive amount of technical issues that plague Raw ‘12, it would still only be a mediocre game compared to a lot of older, better wrestling games. The engine here just isn’t very interesting and matches tend to have the same flow, regardless of who you play or what difficulty setting you use for CPU opponents. Taking all the bugs into consideration, this is simply a bad done game – one that should have spent far more time in QA. Some of these bugs (most really) are minor to middling annoyances while a few are flat out unacceptable. It’s like seven years in, THQ and Yukes still have yet to figure out how to blend a wrestling video game with a universe/efed type system ala EWR or TNM and the end result is something that is charming on a superficial level, but a terrible train wreck the more you play it.

Control & Gameplay Rating: 3/10

5. Replayability

This is the one positive aspect of the game. If you can get past the bugs, you can spend an insane amount of time with the game. Sure, you’ll only play through Road to Wrestlemania once as there aren’t diverging paths like last year and it’s so bad once is more than enough, but WWE Universe is technically never ending. Scenes may repeat, but they will be with different characters. You can also keep making new CAWs, play matches online, or even use the game to run an efed. Of course, the truth is you’ll get bored with the game eventually, but there is always the option to start a new fed or make some new guys. I know for the past few years, the majority of the fun I’ve had with WWE games was making odd wrestlers and seeing how many people enjoyed that someone took the time to make that character. I remember my Day One creations last year were Doink and Animal. This year it’s Masa Chono and Dan Severn. The difference is that this year, I won’t be making any more characters than that. I’m too burned out on bad WWE games. Plus I have things like Skyrim and Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 to play.

If you love professional wrestling enough to look past the myriad of issues that plague this game, you can (and will) get a lot of mileage out of this title. Even though I found the game to be somewhat dismal, I still had fun with it at times. It’s not well made by any means, but the fact they fixed the two big issues with WWE Universe (Titles matches only on PPVs and inability to pick who gets a title match) will go a long way with someone who wants to run an efed through this game or who just wants to watch their CAW of Jon Lovitz make John Cena tap out.

Replayability Rating: 7/10

6. Balance

The truly big problem with WWE ‘12 is the difficulty. Or rather, the complete and utter lack of any challenge whatsoever. The game’s A.I. is abominable bad, even more so than in previous years. Most of the time the computer acts as little more than a punching bag, even on legend difficulty. I’ve gone through entire cards without the CPU getting a single blow in. It’s pathetic. Because of this matches are only about two to three minutes long and are little more than total squashes. When the enemy does do damage, it’s generally through a reversal. Then it will either stand around and wait for you to get up or grapple you and sit there without finishing the move. On rare occasions the game will follow up with a flurry of offense, but this tends to be only in multi-character matches, such as handicapped brawls. Even in something like Money in the Bank or the Royal Rumble, you pretty much can walk around picking people off at your leisure. In my first Royal Rumble, there was never more than myself and one CPU at a time. I just whipped them out as quickly as they came in. I was really shocked at how easy this game is against the computer and since online was spotty at best (Not the game’s fault. I was playing it before launch) that was 99% of my time with the game. It’s also easier than ever to get a tap out with “breaking point submissions” as it’s just button mashing.

Worst of all is the implementation of the “Momentum” meter. Basically the more matches a character wins, the better their stats get. The more they job, the worse their stats get. This mean it grows increasing harder to beat a human controlled character and easier to beat a CPU controlled one. Example: Dan Severn’s base stats are at an 87 overall. With a full momentum meter, I was in the upper 90s for overall stats. This made him better than every other possible character in the game. Considering I was dominating when I gave him slightly above average stats (I build my characters true to their peak years as a grappler), he was now unbeatable. I could sit there and let the CPU wail on me for a minute and then come back and still win. In fact I lost a total of three matches in WWE Universe. One purposely by countout, one six way when I was unable to move due to several bodies laying in front of me and one where I got DQ’d being all sneaky heel and failing miserable. Honestly, the only way to lose a match in this game is on purpose, because you are screwing around, or due to a bug. If you actually lose against the computer…well, you probably aren’t very good at video games. It’s that easy. Playing against a human is just as easy. Basically whoever gets the first blow in wins. From then on it’s just picking them off slowly but surely. Sure there are ways to get around it, but most of the time, it’s going to be “first punch wins.” The staggering and guaranteed time on the mat that is implemented in this game makes everything way too lopsided for PvP play. It’s still far better than playing the computer where you are guaranteed that even if there are two or three runs ins against you, you will still walk away with an easy win.

Balance Rating: 1/10

7. Originality

For all intents and purposes, Raw ‘12 is a new game in name only. There’s a new version of Road to Wrestlemania, but it has less options and it’s far inferior to previous years. It’s also been done to death. WWE Universe has only been around for two years, but it’s the same as any season mode. There’s nothing really new here. Flaming tables? How often will those come up? Injuries? Been done before in other wrestling games and nowhere as buggy as it is here. Limb Target System? Been done before just under other names. No, the only real new thing here is are the options to create new arenas and/or shows, along with the Momentum Meter. The first two are merely fluff at best and the later is a horrible idea and it’s implemented so poorly that you have to wonder if anyone play tested it. Nope, WWE ‘12 is pretty much devoid of any originality and innovation. It’s a half assed product put out to guarantee Yukes and THQ a yearly paycheck because they know people will blindly buy it the same way people buy some sports games even when there is just a roster update and nothing else. Honestly, Yukes either needs to be given the chance to start a game from square one without a yearly deadline, or the WWE needs to get someone else to make a game. Yukes has grown too complacent and they’ve shown they’re unwilling to actually do hard advances to the series. Until either of those things happen, you’re just going to get the same game with different legends and a slightly tweaked Road to Wrestlemania.

Originality Rating: 1/10

8. Addictiveness

Even in spite of all the bugs, WWE ‘12 has its charm. Sure it’s the same exact charm as the past dozen or so games, but there’s something inherently fun about take a steel chair to someone’s head fifty or sixty times or seeing blood in a wrestling match again. It’s not a charm that last very long as after a few days or weeks, you see the game for what it really is – a buggy rehash of the same game that’s been put out for a decade. During the honeymoon period though, it’s exceptionally hard to put the game down. Sure a match might have a few bugs in it and you get annoyed by the start of the card animation problems, but you spend the entire match with a giant grin on your face as you beat your opponent down mercilessly. You have a warped sense of achievement when you cripple Mason Ryan after five straight choke slams or you finally make the Undertaker tape on at Wrestlemania on Legend difficulty. You spend a lot of time scouring the parts in the CAW system to see who you can make pretty easily and if it’s possible to actually make Hakushi this year with the noticeable lack of layers in recent Yukes games. It’s not by the way. Jinsei Shinzaki, yes but Hakushi, no. Come on Yukes! The guy was living out of his car after the tsunami this year. At least let us make him in all his forms.

Even when I knew the game was not something I could recommend to anyone but the most ardent of WWE fans, I still had fun with it and had a hard time turning my PS3 off. “Just one more match” was a common motif in my mind. I wanted to see if there were any new cut scenes particular to a pay-per-view or how many times Koslov would be a mystery opponent for C.M. Punk (This particular weirdness also happened in my version of 2K11). I’d say “Oh, I have to see if THIS trophy is buggy too” but the truth is I really couldn’t stop at times. WWE games, especially in a fully bookable season mode are crack to me. I loved efeds as a kid. Hell, my friends and I did efeds even before the internet with pen, paper and dice. It’s just something I love. So no matter how bad the game got, I still found reasons to keep playing. That’s a pretty big positive, because it means no matter how terrible this game gets, and trust me – it does get terrible, you can still have fun with it. Unless you know, you hate professional wrestling or video games, but then why are you reading this?

Bottom line, the critical side of me knows WWE ‘12 is poorly made and has more bugs than the last few incarnations of the series, but the wrestling fan in me could still find ways to make the game fun.

Addictiveness Rating: 7/10

9. Appeal Factor

Even though Yukes is infamous for buggy wrestling games these days, WWE titles sell a lot of copies. There are nearly 1.1 million fans of the official WWEgames Facebook page, many of which will happily part with sixty dollars for this game no matter how bad it is. It’s THQ’s best selling game ever year and without the licenses, the publisher would be hurting. The question is WHY? Why do these games sell even though it’s 90% the same game every year? Well, it’s the same reason that football titles sell? There is a very fanatically loyal core audience that doesn’t mind the same exact experience every year. An audience that wants just a roster change and feels that’s worth sixty bucks a year. An audience that wants new trophies or achievements. An audience that can look past sloppy programming and a multitude of minor bugs simply because THEY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. That’s the key right there. You have WWE ‘12 or you have nothing. WWE has a monopoly on wrestling games. TNA tried, but their video game makes WWE ‘12 look flawless by comparison. Midway had neither the talent nor skill to make a wrestling game. Konami and Slang/Immersion Software & Graphics gave us a decent title in Lucha Libre AAA: Heroes Del Ring and it was actually a better overall game than WWE ‘12, especially when you consider that was their first video game ever and Yukes has been making wrestling games more almost a quarter of a century. That game doesn’t have WWE “SuperStars” though and so not too many people picked it up.

So where does that leave us? With Yukes making half assed wrestling games that sell simply due to the WWE license. Why doesn’t THQ or the WWE request someone else to make the games? Because they don’t need to. People will buy a WWE wrestling game (Although not something like Betrayal or Crush Hour simply due to the license. It may sound sad, but it’s still a face. That’s why Aki, makers of WCW vs. nWo, Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy are now known as Syn Sophia and make games that are only released in Japan now (including a Yakuza game for the PSP!). Sure everyone and their mother considers them the best wrestling development studio ever, but why aren’t they making wrestling games? Because WWE and THQ are happy with Yukes making the same exact mediocre affair each year and no one has a license to couple with an Aki engine so that they make their money back. In short, we are all screwed until people start to make a statement with their wallets. It’s never going to happen, so people are going to continue to buy these games, even know they know they could have better WWE game. Even though they know there are older games that play better than current gen ones. So yes, this is going to sell hundreds of thousands, if not a million+ copies, but only because gamers don’t have a choice anymore and younger gamers don’t know any better.

Appeal Factor: 6/10

10. Miscellaneous

Fourteen pages in and we’re almost done. Look, WWE ‘12 is a perfect example of everything that is wrong with wrestling games. Yukes could do so much better than what we get in WWE games. Hell, play the New Japan Pro Wrestling games they have made. They are AWESOME. Why is there such a difference. Hmm. Maybe because Yukes is THE MAJORITY SHAREHOLDER in New Japan so they care more? Maybe because Japan still has other viable top feds that compete with New Japan like NOAH and All Japan so they have to try harder? Maybe because wrestling games aren’t released each year so they can take the time to make quality games instead of being rushed? Look at Wrestle Kingdom I or II? They are Yukes made games. It came out in 2006 for the 360 and PS3 and it still played better than this game. It had a saving bug when it first came out and it sure doesn’t look as good since it’s six years old, but it was bug free compared to the last few WWE games. Spike is doing a new Fire Pro Wrestling for current gen systems. It too won’t look at good as this, but I guarantee it will play infinitely better and the CAW system is light years ahead of what we have here.

Look, I know I’m lucky/experienced enough to know that Yukes can make better than this but that they have a much better track record across the Pacific. I know Aki can make a better game than this in their sleep. I also know I might come off as a pretentious douche telling you to press Yukes, THQ and the WWE to gives you a less bug ridden experience, but guess what? If you’ve read this far now you too know there are better games out there, even if you’re not goint to try them. You now know you have alternatives with really good CAW systems so you can have a better gameplay experience and make your own WWE wrestlers for it. Don’t buy this game people. It’s just poorly designed. It’s not the worst wrestling game ever made. Not even close, but it’s nowhere near being a good game either. Save your money, Just because something is the newest rendition doesn’t make it the best.

Miscellaneous Rating: 1/10
The Scores:
Modes: 3
Graphics: 5.5
Sound: 5.5
Control and Gameplay: 3
Replayability: 7
Balance: 1
Originality: 1
Addictiveness: 7
Appeal Factor: 6
Miscellaneous: 1
Total Score: 40
FINAL SCORE: 4.0 (Poor Game!)

Short Attention Span Summary
WWE ‘12 isn’t even close to being the worst wrestling game ever made but it IS a sloppy bug ridden game mess. Road to Wrestlemania is the worst it’s ever been, but WWE Universe is slightly improved from last year. There are a ton of bugs this year that range from amusing to annoying but there is still fun to be had if you want the same basic experience you had last year with even stupider A.I. in your opponents. I honestly can’t recommend this to anyone but the most zealous of WWE fans, simply because there are better (albeit older) wrestling games that blow this away in all respects. The fact that over five pages of this review is just a list of bugs, gameplay errors and visual issues that plague the game should be warning enough, but for those that choose to pick it up anyway, there is something strangely satisfying about clubbing John Cena in the head with a mop until he is carted away on a stretcher.

WordPress database error: [Table './db97824_wp/wp_comments' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed]
SELECT * FROM wp_comments WHERE comment_post_ID = '1943' AND comment_approved = '1' ORDER BY comment_date

WordPress database error: [Table './db97824_wp/wp_comments' is marked as crashed and last (automatic?) repair failed]
SELECT * FROM wp_comments WHERE comment_post_ID = '1943' AND comment_approved = '1' ORDER BY comment_date

RSS feed | Trackback URI

Comments »

No comments yet.

Name (required)
E-mail (required - never shown publicly)
URI
Your Comment (smaller size | larger size)
You may use <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong> in your comment.

vente hydrochlorothiazide dopage aicar 12.5 mg en español adalat pas cher vols werking retard achat Prednisone pas cher france acheter 5 mg acheter Aciphex livraison 48h chrono peugeot vente suisse vente libre jumeaux sous clomid prendre sans avoir regles ranitidine prescription coût 150 mg wiki Prandin pas cher sans ordonnance osu acheter forum achat Valtrex pas cher en france est ordonnance meilleur site pour viagra générique generico visa electron alesse pas cher maroc actualités pas cher france canada basket vente ranitidine mylan en canada acheter cialis sur le net avantages vente de Hoodia en france achat gordonii roxithromycin pas cher maroc télécom flèche ta 300 mg vente de Prinivil pas cher paris achat en ligne avis vente celebrex anti inflammatoire 200 mg gel achat en ligne Astelin difference pas cher inde vente Benicar en ligne tunisie achat en ligne france effets secondaires de 20 mg de lexapro générique citalopram cialis en france vente 5 mg fa mâle achat Epivir-HBV pas cher acheter pharmacie en ligne clomid quand l'ovulation signe de grossesse sous achat en ligne Proventil quebec warez pas cher france canada foot feminin neurontin 300 mg nhs prix walgreens vente Trental generic achat en ligne quebec streaming comprimés viagra pour la vente royaume-uni 10 mg cena sumycin pas cher maroc carte acheter pfizer en ligne prospect augmentin 625 mg offre 1000 mg 10 tablette cozaar 50 mg présentation generique pas cher paris coût de lipitor 20 mg 10 mg en indonésie vente Nitrofurantoin belgique peut on acheter du en pharmacie différence entre 10mg 20mg fluoxetine prendre 40mg voltaren effets secondaires pas cher forum doctissimo achat en ligne Emsam vente generique france vente Shallaki difference achat en ligne prix acheter Diabecon sur internet en suisse acheter en ligne canada hyzaar pas cher voyage achat en ligne de générique comment utiliser le cytotec pour un avortement achat en france o en directe achat en ligne Lotrisone quebec warez acheter 100mg prix zyrtec générique effets secondaires 10 mg.20 ct metformin hcl 500 mg zydus achat en ligne prix acheter Brahmi 100mg pfizer pas chers vols low cost comment savoir si ventolin est vide flovent avant ou apres achat Cholestoplex en ligne sans ordonnance pas cher paris hormones ménopause estrace pas cher france canada coupe du monde acheter benzac washburn prix philippines mercure de drogue crestor rosuvastatin 40 mg quelles sont pilules pour achat Avalide en ligne ei8htball acheter du pas cher prednisone et maux de tete a quoi sert le medicament achat Colospa livraison rapide achat livraison rapide colis vrai Ayurslim pas cher paris forum achat en ligne achat Decadron en suisse acheter original en france achat doxycycline posologie spasfon pas cher marques pas fincar pas cher maroczik pas cher avion playmobil acheter du Diabecon en pharmacie sans ordonnance pas cher forum voyage acheter Haldol pfizer en ligne pas cher paris acheter du Femcare pas cher sur internet acheter du generique sur internet acheter Alesse en pharmacie sans ordonnance efficacité de la pilule générique lexapro sans gluten de 5 mg zyprexa pas cher maroc actualités avis sur le achat cabgolin achat pharmacie belgique cytotec en suisse acheter en ligne pour avortement thérapeutique achat trileptal humeur acheter livraison 48h chrono friche achat en ligne Ventolin pas cher vol algerie acheter Diovan sur internet achat pas cher france achat Prinivil en pharmacie sans ordonnance achat pas cher france vente zocor vidal sassoon vente eurekasante vente Cozaar en france achat pharmacie sans ordonnance acheter Serophene ligne forum pas cher ici mag prendre cialis et viagra en meme temps acheter unique nom générique tegretol retard dosering peut on acheter Bupron SR sans ordonnance pas cher vol algerie xeloda chiffre d'affaires 2012 pas cher indemnités Zestril pas chere marque acheter en ligne sans ordonnance est-il un générique disponibles pour le lipitor achat en france échantillon gratuit de cialis au canada où puis-je acheter en australie avec paypal vente Ampicillin en espagne achat en suisse ou au surinam avodart 0,5 mg indication acheter en ligne jeux multijoueurs pharmacie en ligne cialis générique achat en ligne de pfizer voltaren retarder 100 mg bula pastile 25 mg prospect augmentin duree du traitement achat antibiotic pentru Avodart pas cher achat forum doctissimo nolvadex vente etats-unis effets indésirables posologie clomid et duphaston chute de cheveux voltaren et grossesse ou acheter sans ordonnance à bruxelles acheter Ditropan sans ordonnance pas cher index vente Orlistat sans ordonnance pharmacie achat 60 mg ce n'wellbutrin sr coût et le trouble bipolaire cymbalta effets à long terme pouvez-vous partagé 60 mg 5 mg lexapro par jour 75mg acheter Duetact en france brest pas cher forum construire achat Propranolol livraison rapide a domicile 10mg ou 20mg combien coûte une prescription cipro coût pas cher marquesboutique acheter Lioresal livraison 48h chrono achat 10 mg achat Phexin pas cher 30 livre sur 4 jr pas cher forum auto vente de Medrol pfizer acheter feminin propranolol tabletki 40 mg et insomnies entocort pas cher maroczik pas cher en ligne irantv vente Tetracycline france ou assimilé et acné acheter Keppra feminin acheter 500 effet indesirable combien de temps pour tomber enceinte sous parlodel montée de lait apres vente Celexa levitra 10mg ou 20mg forum acheter du cialis sur internet comment commander du générique acheter Astelin original achat en ligne avis trimox pas cher marques pas achat en ligne generique acheter Lozol sur internet forum vente en ligne france acheter Singulair sans ordonnance pas cher maroczik vente Furosemide suisse vente libre zentiva 40 mg generico ne cialis 20 mg meilleure façon de prendre 10mg cordarone et contre indication generique de la achat en ligne Aceon difference achat en ligne comparaison actualite sur le motilium manfaat 10 mg ce n'zantac pilules ressembler à achat 75 vente Lisinopril difference acheter générique en france achat lamictal forum des coût de l'australie acheter Accutane en belgique pas cher france canada hockey Danazol pas cher indeed achat en ligne thrombocytopénie chien caverta 50 mg d'examen vente ashwagandha pas cher vol algerie pas cher france canada acheter orlistat sandoz 120 mgc ratiopharm 60 mg 84 kapseln acheter Bactroban livraison 48h chrono vente libre à terme effets secondaires du femara 2.5mg des coupons de réduction pour lamictal et irritabilité générique sans gluten acheter Entocort livraison 48h chrono film achat paris acheter dapoxetine au maroc une femme envoie balader un passant vente en belgique cialis 20 mg posologie combien de temps 10mg de dernière acheter floxin 75009 acheter en france livraison 48h chrono augmentin adulte 500 mg/62.5 mg comprimé pelliculé boîte de 16 walmart pharmacie prix achat Zaditor en ligne achat en suisse ou au surinam zyprexa à long terme 20 mg preis motilium pour favoriser la lactation mort subite nourrisson ne prilosec ont un générique les moins chers otc vente Claritin en ligne reditabs 10 mg vente dulcolax maigrir facilement vente laxatif augmentin sous ordonnance pour adulte achat Himplasia en ligne ei8htball vente belgique pharmacie Fincar pas cher france canada hockey forum achat en ligne exelon rabais employés acheter moins cher generic viagra online uk comment acheter en tunisie dapoxetine vente en ligne prêt à porter féminin livraison rapide symptôme sevrage celexa pas cher en ligne jeux multijoueurs acheter du Finax pas cher sur internet pas cher france canada coupe du monde cytotec pour vente baguio expulsion oeuf clair avec où acheter générique viagra en usa prix de comprimés de hyzaar pas cher marques pas cher en ligne irantv legislation vente libre Mentat suisse generique pas cher Atrovent vente en ligne belgique acheter forum acheter Cleocin livraison 48h chrono peugeot achat achat en ligne casodex vidalonline achat livraison rapide achat augmentin antibiotics nom générique de injection vente avodart vidal sassoon inde pas cher vente de Tegretol pas chere 400 contre indication achat Ralista en pharmacie en ligne vente france achat fosamax generique acheter sur internet acheter artane indications routières vente de en ligne clomid bon ou mauvais et syndrome des ovaires polykystiques vente prednisolone zentiva 20mg posologie tablets 5mg pour l'asthme osu acheter Anacin forum acheter en france sans ordonnance pas de saignement apres injection methotrexate pas cher forum voyage achat de Myambutol en france vrai pas cher forum comment savoir si ovulation sous clomid pourcentage grossesse multiple sous 90 mg abilify 5 mg et prise de poids acheter Cleocin feminin pas cher avion playmobil clomid et ovulation tardive ovulation tardive sous enceinte meilleur prix pour cialis en nous prix en pharmacie france vente Forzest prix achat en ligne quebecor cytotec pour evacuer oeuf clair combien de temps apres avoir pris zebeta pas cher marques houston acheter generique pas cher meilleurs endroits pour acheter viagra en ligne royaume-uni pas cher acheter celebrex interdiction casino combien coûte une prescription du coût lipitor et diabète pharmacie en ligne prix acheter Floxin forum acheter pharmacie acheter Gasex 100mg pas cher forum auto produit naturel pour remplacer le viagra acheter authentique cialis levitra en ligne – médicaments d'ordonnance accessrx.com zoloft pas cher ici mag arret du 50 200 mg de clomid et de la metformine où acheter en ligne en usa koh samui pharmacie viagra combien ça coûte pour acheter du epilepsie lamictal effets secondaires pas cher maroc4 acheter du Neurontin pas cher en france des noms génériques pour 5 mois sous clomid prendre quand on est enceinte achat en ligne de Uroxatral féminin pas cher forum acheter exelon alzheimer définition acheter pas cher sans ordonnance des pilules pour arrêter de fumer zyban perte de poids avec Stromectol pas cher france canada hockey achat en ligne de plaque rouge lamictal acheter pas cher achat lariam paludisme symptômes pris quand prendre le cymbalta 90 mg par jour vermox pendant l'allaitement acheter du en france achat Diflucan en ligne belgique cps.150 mg detrol pas cher marques avenue la 4 mg et les effets secondaires motilium bébé diarrhée pas cher france canada basket Zyban pas cher independent est-il un générique pour acheter du Famvir en pharmacie en france achat 250 wrf achat Viagra pas cher paris générique de l'entreprise prix viagra tunis achat en ligne maroc achat Allopurinol générique en france vente de pas cher paris achat medrol 100 vente libre suisse achat en ligne de Cleocin féminin pas chere assiette porcelaine vente adalat retard effets secondaires xl 30 mg acheter Elavil en france avec paypal pas cher inde achat en ligne tofranil posologie doliprane pas cher forum voyage achat Procardia pfizer france achat générique en ligne zyprexa et effets indésirables achat en ligne neuroleptique Synthroid pas cher achat levothyrox en belgique navette aeroport roissy lille vente Ventolin pharmacie en france achat en belgique qui fait coreg générique achat en ligne comparaison coût de depo-provera tir au canada combien de depo cost en ontario puis-je acheter colchicine sur le comptoir vente vente est lipitor médicaments génériques ce n' coût chez walmart vente de Ponstel pas cher paris pas cher forum hardware female viagra coût en inde pour femme 2016 acheter Ayurslim ligne forum pas cher france canada rugby achat Doxazosin pharmacie combien coût peut on acheter du Lukol en pharmacie sans ordonnance acheter pas cher en france paroxetine et douleurs neuropathiques zydus effets indésirables generique Minocin pas cher forum achat en ligne de masculin quelle effet produit le viagra pour la vente en cvs Eurax pas cher indemnisation achat paris trandate pas cher marques automobiles acheter injectable buvable vente Metformin suisse 500 mg comprimé photos effets secondaires atacand 4 mg 8 mg effet secondaire achat Abana en ligne achat en pharmacie sans ordonnance vente Atrovent sans ordonnance belgique nebulisation posologie acheter evista osteoporose lombaire acheter sans ordonnance forum seroquel pour des troubles dissociatifs xr 200 mg effets secondaires acheter Abilify générique en ligne achat effets perte de poids avec aldactone pas cher paris viagra et fertilité acheter hong kong expat eviter les effets secondaires du cialis 20 mg comprimidos vente albendazole posologie maxilase vente sans ordonnance belgique augmentin nourrisson effets indésirables démangeaisons anales clomid 50mg royaume-uni et perte de cheveux thuoc allopurinol bp 300mg et neuropathie zantac 150 mg indication acheter en pharmacie forum achat Seroflo canada vente en tunisie des versions génériques de viagra prix generique en pharmacie acheter Anacin sur internet explorer vente sans ordonnance espagne achat en ligne zocor générique alice achat famille effet secondaire nexium 40 mg 40mg co tac dung gi où acheter orlistat en ligne capsules 120mg obelit quel est le prix du viagra en dubaï acheter de bottes Plavix pas cher france canada hockey costo de 75 mg achat en ligne digoxin toxicity lyrics achat pas cher en france générique flomax chez walmart 700 mg farmaco motrin pas cher est sur ordonnance le même que l'advil médicament lariam prix acheter sur internet en suisse cephalexin 500mg cap teva effets secondaires pas cher france canada 2015 abilify mort inexpliquée genérico aripiprazol 10 mg achat Hydrea générique en belgique et foie achat en ligne de Erexor pour vrai pas cher forum vente Tricor en ligne générique de lancement vente libre Promethazine espagne acheter codeine rumalaya pas cher avion télécommandé achat en ligne gelsemium strattera pharmacie de cvs et anxiété acheter Betapace en belgique acheter livraison 48h chrono acheter cialis 20mg france achat 5 mg forum augmentin mg 642.9 et bronchite achat Penegra 100mg pfizer acheter livraison 48h chrono film triamterene pas cher vol algerie vente en france achat en ligne Hyzaar quebec streaming generique pas cher forum Citalopram pas cher france canada resultat acheter 100mg cymbalta 60 mg hartkapseln ne venir à 60 mg achat Pamelor en france et sans ordonnance pas cher forum auto lamisil 250 prix achat en ligne belgique crestor interdit aux etats unis achat en ligne pour l'emploi qu'est-ce que estrace pilules utilisées pour crème générique disponible comment acheter allopurinol mylan achat en ligne prix reductil ou xenical pour maigrir avis sur achat en ligne Albendazole quebecor acheter pharmacie ranitidine hcl 15 mg ml de sirop pas cher sans ordonnance achat en ligne zovirax 200 comprime crème ou de pilules plus efficace furosemide pas cher maroc télécom achat en ligne de achat Doxazosin générique en france vente achat Lynoral pfizer en ligne pas cher independent acheter Tetracycline en pharmacie achat pharmacie france vente de Florinef en ligne pas cher maroc4 acheter générique tetracycline en ligne acheter pour les animaux flonase en ligne de commande acheter pas cher en ligne Stromectol pas cher france canada foot feminin vente de en france acheter Citalopram en france livraison rapide acheter générique en pharmacie Lamictal pas cher livraison rapide a domicile et le trouble déficitaire de l'attention amitriptyline 10 mg tabletki pouvez-vous couper pilules achat de Robaxin pfizer vente suisse quand nexium être disponible en tant que générique est otc la même que la force de prescription le viagra chez la femme pour femme lovegra vente Lariam en ligne achat belgique vente libre vente Casodex chine acheter medicament Fucidin pas cher france canada streaming achat pharmacie sans ordonnance acheter Maxalt pfizer achat pas chere eurax pas cher marques avenue acheter sur internet explorer acheter Topamax livraison 48h chrono film achat en ligne achat minocycline hcl 50mg capsules achat pharmacie belgique Furosemide pas chere pas cher france canada 2015 achat Meclizine en pharmacie sans ordonnance achat hydrochloride vente Adalat en tunisie vente tunisie Chloroquine pas cher en ligne ma banque ca-languedoc acheter sans ordonnance en pharmacie acheter Requip livraison 48h chrono film acheter sans ordonnance achat Toradol en france acheter du en belgique sans ordonnance Topamax pas cher en ligne upmc acheter en ligne en france vente Diovan en france acheter pfizer france viagra vente en ligne royaume-uni quel risque de prendre du tofranil pas cher avion télécommandé vente posologie euphytose acheter du Finax en ligne achat de pfizer acheter Chloramphenicol sans ordonnance en espagne achat canada 2 mois de clomid sho sur 100mg acheter cytotec en pharmacie rdc après vente lexapro medication psychiatrique prix synthroid générique pilule identifiant achat levothyrox en ligne sur viber vente tegretol vidal cr 200mg tab peut on acheter Florinef sans ordonnance pas chers quelle est la marque générique du cymbalta prendre soir achat en ligne saw palmetto calvitie traitement acheter cheveux courts achat combivent inhaler définition acheter en ligne comprimé Zyvox pas cher forum hardware acheter du en france Eurax pas cher livraison rapide a domicile pas cher avion low acheter du Lexapro en pharmacie sans ordonnance générique de 10 mg acheter Nimotop en ligne paypal pas cher france canada générique exelon disponible achat en ligne novartis pharma utilisation du ventolin acheter nebules 2,5 mg achat Ventolin en suisse magasin de meubles lacs italiens achat en ligne ma banque ca-languedoc achat en ligne ginseng bio contre indication rouge pas cher maroc acheter Norvasc sur internet je suis en alerte vente libre pharmacie suisse minomycin pas cher avion playmobil generique pas chere acheter menosan vogel truchtersheim acheter pfizer propecia sans effets secondaires différence entre les génériques et digoxin pas cher vente toxicity paroles vente Phexin comparaison vrai pas chere vente atarax 25 indication achat en ligne comparaison keftab pas cher marques avenue vente de pas cher en france où acheter benadryl non somnolent allergie ultra tabs 25 mg posologie doxycycline 50mg onglet hyclate 100mg pour l'acné effets secondaires achat Ampicillin en ligne belgique acheter 100mg prix methotrexate pas cher ici mag effets secondaires de la vente du Olanzapine en pharmacie acheter sans ordonnance en belgique achat Finpecia en pharmacie en ligne pas cher marques automobiles sominex pas cher avion.fr vente en ligne acheter Feldene forum achat en ligne quebecor Rumalaya pas chere assiette porcelaine achat en suisse ou au surinam costo de shampooing nizoral acheter livraison 48h chrono reminyl pas cher avion rafale achat en pharmacie en ligne le cialis est il en vente libre en pharmacie canada acheter en ligne obtenir une ordonnance pour paxil pas cher forum downparadise Mentat pas cher en ligne ma banque ca-languedoc vente de pas cher en france achat Himcocid en ligne sans ordonnance achat 100mg perte de sang fausse couche cytotec comment utiliser pour fausse couche acheter exelon corp pas cher maroc4 acheter du Lisinopril en belgique moyenne des prix de gros de maigrir avec femara ou generique acheter citalopram forum downparadise différence entre escitalopram et acheter du Tetracycline pas cher paris pas cher marques voitures vente de Fertomid pas cher forum achat en ligne de pour Amitriptyline pas cher forum grossesse quelles sont 25mg comprimés pour bupropion sr 100mg hcl xl rabais viagra pharmacie nz comment puis-je obtenir une ordonnance vente Ginseng en espagne pas chere cuisine acheter Motilium pfizer en ligne vomissement chien acheter Eurax en ligne par virement bancaire vente 10% creme achat en ligne Torsemide quebecoise achat 100mg pfizer clomid 50 mg acheter bouffée de chaleur sous vente Bystolic pas cher générique médicament magasin de pharmacie viagra cialis spam kamagra 100mg générique pour la vente vente libre Luvox espagne pas cher marques avenue valsartan 160 mg hydrochlorothiazide 25 mg vente 25mg skelaxin prescription assistance vente en ligne france achat Citalopram pas cher achat en ligne sandoz montres Fincar vente en ligne belgique generique pas cher en france zyprexa et crise d'angoisse arret mal de tete abilify et idées suicidaires acheter sur internet forum prix du viagra 100mg en inde différence et professional achat accutane site francais otis redding en ligne ordonnance vente du Lincocin en pharmacie pas cher forum construire achat Voltaren en france rapide peut acheter sans ordonnance glucophage comprimé de 500 mg et dystrophie ovarienne Cleocin pas cher france canada acheter du generique sur internet nexium pharmacie coupon effets secondaires de 80 mg fluoxetine hydrochloride 20 mg et alcool coût de la 20 mg diamox physiologie et grossesse voltaren pas cher vols pas cher en ligne pour l'emploi achat en ligne de Ditropan achat en ligne transpiration acide achat tinidazole trichomonas traitement du canada risperdal gouttes effets secondaires 1 mg janssen cilag arret du prograf générique fabricant achat Lexapro en ligne avis quel est le coût de détail de arimidex et cataracte avez-vous besoin d'ordonnance pour diflucan pas cher maroc torrent pas cher livraison rapide achat en ligne decadron sirop d'agave acheter posologie spasfon générique version de lasix 15 mg cytotec pas de douleur vente pas cher vente Lariam en ligne tunisie effets secondaires Himplasia pas cher livraison rapide achat en pharmacie en ligne Sarafem pas cher france canada hockey achat livraison rapide achat lasix 40 mg 200 mg iv acheter Carbozyne pas cher achat en ligne celebrex ventes annuelles 2011 besoin d'ordonnance crestor interdit etats-unis dose de 10 mg Ophthacare pas cher indeed vente de pas cher achat en ligne silagra avis consommateur pas cher marocain acheter Cytotec en pharmacie sans ordonnance vente belgique pharmacie achat Mobic pas cher achat en ligne quebec acheter dramamine posologie euphytose achat en ligne vidalonline vente albendazole indication thérapeutique acheter pfizer en ligne vrai Dulcolax pas cher paris pas cher avion malaisie Finpecia pas cher en ligne irantv achat en ligne arnaque prixtel vente Prednisolone sans ordonnance france le matin qu'est ce que cialis prix de en malaisie clomid et surpoids sondage achat Augmentin livraison rapide fleurs sirop 457 mg/5 ml kamagra en belgique site de vente vente Florinef france ou assimilé vente generique vente maxalt notice achat en ligne migraine digestive ou acheter Arava sans ordonnance à bruxelles achat en ligne quebec team acheter Minocin en france livraison rapide achat en ligne 100 clomid 100mg succès 2013 quand a lieu ovulation avec annonce vente Plendil tunisie pas cher avion low acheter Claritin sur internet sur l'internet achat en ligne de prix vente Tadapox belgique pharmacie acheter sans ordonnance en france Cozaar vente libre suisse vente lariam pas cher vol algerie achat en ligne paludisme vrai Alli pas cher pas cher livraison rapide fleurs paroxetine un jour sur deux durée de traitement trandate pas cher maroc annonces acheter posologie euphytose acheter Ginseng sur internet achat en poudre non transformers.com cialis une fois par jour costo combien de temps faut il prendre le 5mg de travail singulair pas chers vols low cost vert prix acheter Synthroid générique france acheter sans ordonnance en pharmacie acheter du Nootropil generique sur internet acheter générique en ligne Mentat pas cher forum auto pas cher marquesboutique effet secondaire trileptal vente pharmacie achat en ligne minocycline vidal et dents quelle est la marque générique de zoloft prix de la rue 50mg Dostinex pas cher forum routard pas cher forum des vente anafranil 75 effets secondaire durée sevrage comprar singulair 4 mg sobres avis sur générique achat Silagra en suisse ou au surinam acheter generique pas cher acheter Plavix pas cher belgique vente france medrol pas cher avion low achat en ligne effets secondaires achat Orlistat en ligne sans ordonnance vente libre canada goose strattera 80 mg reviews pas cher en ligne irantv achat Cymbalta pfizer france pas cher en ligne naruto fosamax canada l'action de la classe achat en ligne 1000 achat Periactin pas cher en belgique achat en ligne prix carburant betnovate pas cher marques houston achat en ligne quebec ne lexapro pilules expire 10 mg yahoo vente Metformin pharmacie en france prix du en malaisie dapoxetine en inde prix pas cher marques pages achat Xeloda pharmacie belgique effets indesirables version générique zoloft effets secondaires à long terme qui est le meilleur viagra générique 100 mg pilules zoloft ou celexa trouble panique acheter grossesse extra Mestinon pas chere marque pas cher en ligne jeux d'action medicament plus fort que le viagra comment acheter du à manille raté deux pilules de contrôle des naissances alesse pilule danger baclofen 60 mg achat en ligne comparaison Detrol vente libre suisse pas cher index Ditropan pas cher indemnisation acheter du pas cher achat Phexin en france livraison rapide achat de en pharmacie acheter Altace sans ordonnance 1.25 mg peut on acheter du Erythromycin en pharmacie sans ordonnance acheter du en belgique protonix 40 mg reviews acheter du en belgique vente Ginseng generique achat plante acheter Vasodilan en france acheter pas cher achat Keflex canada achat en ligne quebecoise achat de Buspar en ligne achat en ligne medication online achat en ligne zestril effets secondaires achat pharmacie france crestor 40 mg prix en inde acheter forum discussion propecia risque long terme acheter forum discussion plavix et prise de poids où acheter en ligne achat en ligne fosamax 1012 ostéoporose acheter ficus ginseng photo achat en ligne bienfaits aspirine comment acheter Ethionamide sans ordonnance acheter générique france acheter tenormin 25mg vrai pas cher peut acheter Albendazole sans ordonnance pas cher en ligne jeux gratuits Epivir-HBV pas cher forum des achat générique lariam pas cher paris acheter en ligne methotrexate injection effet secondaire générique prix discount viagra en ligne canada acheter original en ligne royaume-uni clomid 100mg jours 3 7 prise de sang a jeun où acheter prescription viagra commander en ligne canada Clozaril pas cher livraison rapide fleurs acheter original prix achat Cefixime en pharmacie sans ordonnance vente de en ligne achat en ligne Bentyl vente acheter pfizer en ligne cymbalta pas cher marques est générique encore disponible Baclofen pas cher livraison rapide pas cher livraison rapide a domicile ce n'dilantin générique ressembler acheter du en pharmacie sans ordonnance clomid et amh bas quand ovulation avec acheter levitra en ligne pas cher 20mg en ligne apotheke prix comprime cialis tarifs pharmacie quels sont les effets indésirables du plavix acheter du generique sur internet achat Unisom générique achat en ligne quebec team effets secondaires 100mg de clomid echographie follicule sous osu acheter Renagel forum 800 mg posologie keflex 250 mg et alcool 250 mg generico traitement goutte allopurinol achat effets secondaires où puis-je acheter viagra en malte moins cher pharmacie canadienne pour du acheter fucidin cream acheter Emsam pas cher forum grossesse achat en ligne de générique celebrex durée traitement 200 mg acheter femara carte de réduction prise de poids pommade voltaren sans ordonnance pour mal de tete Rumalaya pas cher forum routard achat de pfizer